Iam nz

[Gremlin]

Now one point I will raise that maybe some are wondering. Dont think these guys are slow. One of the concepts I believe is the right gear for the corner. Another is using vanishing points. And another is about using lines for good vision. What you get with a rider that can do all that? Someone that is properly quick and smooth.

I - Information
P - Position
S - Speed
G - Gear
A - Acceleration

Information occurs throughout, new information means re-visiting your position (obviously these steps are fluid rather than rigid). Information dictates your position on the road (hazards, road surface, and in order of priority - Safety, Stability, View), your position dictates your speed (distance to vanishing point for example). Your speed dictates the gear you should be in - if, through information and position you've determined you need to slow down or speed up - then you may need to be in a different gear so you can maintain throttle sense (which is being able to control the speed of the motorcycle through the throttle without the need for brakes). Finally, the acceleration phase. You've negotiated the hazard or corner and now you're free to accelerate away.

[Berries]

You forget the bad crashes I have had have been the fault of others and not due to incorrect riding ability.

Does that include the ones where there were no other vehicles involved?

[swbarnett]

Can you scan without rotating your head because if not you are not scanning are you and I assume by scanning you mean 180 degrees?

If you have to turn 180 degrees to look up a driveway then it's already too late. What is required is to scan the triangle that you can see as you approach. Don't stare at it, just a quick glance that will highlight anything that is out of the ordinary.

This very technique saved me from an off a few weeks back when a dog ran out through a line of road-side trees. Because I was scanning I had time to move right and accelerate away. It also helped that I was not hugging the left of the road having identified the trees as a potential hazard.

[swbarnett]

Probably bullshit and that is not scanning.

Not bullshit. Just misinterpreted. The "look down the driveway" bit is probably accurate so I can see that it's not too big a leap for cassina to add the 180 degrees even though it's wrong.

[James Deuce]

Not bullshit. Just misinterpreted. The "look down the driveway" bit is probably accurate so I can see that it's not too big a leap for cassina to add the 180 degrees even though it's wrong.

Rubbish. She ALWAYS assumes that every other person on the planet is not only doing "it" wrong, they are so shit at "it" that doing anything she thinks is bullshit is automatically adding huge negative bias to your percentage chance of dying of motorcycling.

Don't feed the troll.

[GrayWolf]

Maybe if IAMs had been around when I iearnt to ride I may have been interested but unlike you i have been riding since 1976 with NO mid life crisis gap. if you do some research its the mid life crisis guys who are most likely to come to grief. You have to respect that everyone learns differently and it is said you cant beat experience which I have more of than you.

Well I out time you by 2yrs, 1974. Never stopped riding, always been my main transport, that includes living in London {traffic} and riding in UK winters for 9yrs before I took my driving test. Did semi regular thrashes across europe to Spain for 'long weekends'.
My 'learning' was buy the bike, slap Looney plates on it, and ride it out the bike shop door. I decided I needed to improve, and I could argue, as I went almost 25yrs without a spill, I obviously was 'doing it right'. WRONG, had so many bad vices, which I never realised....

oh and scanning ahead or down 'sideroads/driveways' is simply keeping a 'half eye' on as much of it as you can see, in case a car appears at the end, and may fail to stop and give way....
as you get 'level' and pass, the 'threat' lessens by degrees.

[nzspokes]

I saw the website for IAM and I note they say that what you will learn will make you handle "any" hazard safely which I think is false advertising. The people who run it have obviously never been in a situation where things have happened too fast to swerve or brake.

Well to be fair they cant fix stupid. How many times have you crashed again?

Guess you can always ask for your money back.....

[bogan]

I saw the website for IAM and I note they say that what you will learn will make you handle "any" hazard safely which I think is false advertising. The people who run it have obviously never been in a situation where things have happened too fast to swerve or brake.

Again, what you think is not relevant as you do not have the requisite experience (riding defensively).

Which is the whole point is it not?

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[Ulsterkiwi]

Very interesting read this thread. Cassina mate, I feel sorry for you, it takes a very special kind of special to be you. A true advanced rider will always begin and end with the assertion that there is always more learning which can be done. You have closed the stable door on learning and that pony is loooooooonnnnng gone.

[caseye]

STOP Feeding the troll!
Anyone here know all about riding a motorcycle?
Anyone here ever come close and thought, Shit, I'll watch out for that next time?
whatever you are or are not cassina, it is apparent that if you ever introduced yourself to almost any other motorcyclists in NZ they'd run screaming in case you jinxed them the way you do yourself.
Open your eyes, stop talking to yourself and actually see what is out there in front of you, your spate of terrible, other people's/animals fault, accidents will stop overnight.

[nzspokes]

If it was so shit hot sport you would have to pass IAMs before getting a licence would you not ?

Have a look at the CBTA champ. You will discover it looks familiar.

[bogan]

So you think I have never braked hard or swerved to avoid an accident? What I am trying to get through to you lot is it does not work all the time especially if another motorist/animal is the cause of the hazardous situation.

It's a scale init, shitters have more of both, in general defensive riders avoid situations where you would need to swerve etc, and only need to swerve or brake hard to avoid an accident you could not.

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[GrayWolf]

If it was so shit hot sport you would have to pass IAMs before getting a licence would you not ?

Institute of ADVANCED Motorists....... of course you wouldnt be expected to pass it as a learner....
look at it this way..... Passing your test? Bursary exam, The new ACC courses? silver a Degree, Gold Masters, AIM the Doctorate...... geddit??

[James Deuce]

Why do you guys even keep on trying? She contributes nothing but irritation.

[Maha]

Why do you guys even keep on trying? She contributes nothing but irritation.

Obsession Jim