NZ Army

[TwoSeven]

OH,JEEZUS KRIST,NOT ANOTHER FUCKING ONE!!!

When will you guys ever get off your kick of telling other people how to live their lives,telling them what clothes they are allowd to wear!

Go and live your own life,they are living their's,and I hope enjoying it.

i'd agree with that.

[Zed]

Uh, these are *soldiers* ? Job description reads " Get shot at , bayoneted, blown up by shells, missiles, rockets, have people devise interesting and painful ways to kill you" ? And y'reckon their employer ought to be concerned to ensure that they are always safe .

Of course the employer is concerned, he needs the soldier to be in ship shape condition should he get called for duty in a war! You'd think that the government would ensure the safest measures at all times, especially with the public responsability the armed forces hold.

Seriously, I suspect these guys are pretty crash resistant.

On the motorway? What happens if a truck runs one over, or maybe a drunken driver comes up from behind and ploughs through them bowling 8 of them over (like in that night vid from France or wherever it was)?? Not on the motorway!

It's called primary safety folks. Seems to me this whole protective gear thing has gotten a bit like the Yanks and airbags " I'm a shit driver, but that's OK, I don't need to drive safely , cos when I crash (as of course I will) , my airbag will protect me"

I go with Mr Motu.

Yeah I go with Motu too, but that's on an individual level. This is on a national level which should have higher rules and regulations.

But hey, maybe they were wearing X-men type kevlar suits underneath??

[Storm]

They werent. And if they had anything of a protective nature on underneath, it'll be because they are bikers in thier spare time and brought thier own kit

[Pixie]

But I'd have thought that as a responsible employer the army would supply appropriate gear.......

And not send their employees in the way of bullets.
Actually they did confine them to barracks when it got dicey in Basra

[Aitch]

And not send their employees in the way of bullets.
Actually they did confine them to barracks when it got dicey in Basra

I'm not suggesting that these guys should be wrapped in cotton wool. However it makes no sense to spend lots of dough training a guy (or girl) to be a good soldier, then send him out on the road in what amounts to jeans and a rain coat! Yes these folks are meant to go in harm's way, but the same line of reasoning that suggests kevlar helmets are a good idea in a battle zone surely also suggests that a few hundred bucks worth of safety gear is a good investment if they going to ride from Papakura to Waiberia????????

[Hoon]

So as a tax payer you have no problem paying an extra $$$ per week just so soldiers can ride safer?

The Defence budget isn't exactly a bottomless pit so I suspect spending money on luxury items is way down their list. A helmet is more likely to save your life whereas other protective gear will just save some skin. The law says you only have to wear a helmet and if you have a problem with that you should be talking to your MP not targeting those that are just following the law.

[Aitch]

[QUOTE=Hoon]So as a tax payer you have no problem paying an extra $$$ per week just so soldiers can ride safer?

The Defence budget isn't exactly a bottomless pit so I suspect spending money on luxury items is way down their list. A helmet is more likely to save your life whereas other protective gear will just save some skin. The law says you only have to wear a helmet and if you have a problem with that you should be talking to your MP not targeting those that are just following the law.

you're right. why do we bother with silly kevlar armour and leather and stuff? After all, skin grows back in time. No-one ever regretted losing most of the skin on their arm or leg if they saved a few bucks on gear did they? And if a soldier has to spend a few weeks off work cos the army couldn't afford 5 or 6 jundred bucks for decent gear, well that's just fine and dandy too.
And with the money the army saves on decent gear for their DRs they can afford to have another LAV sitting in storage cos they don't have the bodies to drive them.......

[myvice]

We still have an army?
Should be put on the endangered spices list instead of given those dangerous machines!
What if one falls of and the other guy has to take him to hospital when Australia attacks? Our army's busy and we have to drink XXXX?
Oh, the humanity!

[Sniper]

LOL, I just caught up with this thread.

No-one has learn anything have they? You forget that once you join the army, you are invincible. You don't wear your gear because you don't get issued it. Although, heres the neat part, if you fall off and damage yourself............ you get fined,

[Sniper]

Although, I do agree with Motu, just let the guys wear what they want. I wore jeans on a ride to akaroa this weekend and no-one said anything to me. They all realised that I was the stupid one and I even admitted it.

[Right Charlie]

Seriously, I suspect these guys are pretty crash resistant .

Yeah you know what they say,

No Brain No Pain
No Sense No Feeling...

[Right Charlie]

...standard issue BDM battle dress.

That would be D P M (Deceptive Pattern Material)

Thats not battle dress either, which is FSMO... They wear DPMs as there uniform 90% of the time.

[Sniper]

That would be D P M (Deceptive Pattern Material)

Thats not battle dress either, which is FSMO... They wear DPMs as there uniform 90% of the time.

You mean Disruptive Pattern Material? You are right about the DPM's worn 90% of the time.

Although I wouldn't call us no brainers mate. I had the potential and equipment to save a lot of lives when I was in service

[Wolf]

My main concern is that if they bin and slide off the road, no one will be able to find them in the bushes....

[Sniper]

My main concern is that if they bin and slide off the road, no one will be able to find them in the bushes....

You will be surprised.......... Arterial blood is a good giveaway.