ECU anyone?

[Edbear]

Ray Clee needs to clone himself! Poor guy's got so much work on and everyone wants their bike done yesterday. He's trying to get his own ready for the season and can't remember what a night's sleep was!

The fault is definitely with the tuner and it's possible he has damaged the ECU. It's just that my mate has wasted two months and several dollars already on this guy and his excuses that he just wants it fixed so he can ride.

I'm not familiar with the issue and have to go by what he says and by what Brett said. From what I heard, the guy is a bit hit and miss. Sometimes he gets it right but not always. In my mate's case, he would have been better off taking it to Brett in the first place. Other people have been happy with the outcome.

[nzspokes]

Not much help but Roger at Action Wreckers on Barrys point road may have one.

[nzspokes]

they will know all about a motorike computers too.

Well they would know how to spell better than you.

[Tazz]

I just soak ecus with crc. Works every time.

I prefer pine scented cleaner. Makes the exhaust note smell a bit fresher too.

Yeah nah. Plenty of non-franchise tuners out there that I'd trust with my bikes electronics over the franchise dealer.

x2. That goes for any work. The dealer 'protection' is also a myth unless it's under warranty, and even under warranty you can pay for some things that aren't covered by it that you assume would be. You'll only find that out after shit hits the fan.

If your awesome mechanic also happens to work for your dealer, that is just a bonus, sort of. Dealers often have bigger MUs too, although to be fair bikes don't seem to be as bad as cars in that respect.

Better consumer protection from a franchised dealer though and maybe some guys just put too much trust in people who say they know all about computer programming and think
they will know all about a motorike computers too.

You should look into a bit of programming to understand the world a bit better. Going from this and your comments in another thread about game programmers working on ECU's it is quite clear you don't really understand what you are talking about. No offence meant. Enlighten yourself. You'll be better for it

[Edbear]

Not much help but Roger at Action Wreckers on Barrys point road may have one.

Worth a phone call anyway, thanks!

[onearmedbandit]

Better consumer protection from a franchised dealer though and maybe some guys just put too much trust in people who say they know all about computer programming and think
they will know all about a motorike computers too.

Not necessarily and it's about making informed decisions. NZ is small enough that it's very easy to identify who to go to.

[jellywrestler]

The fault is definitely with the tuner and it's possible he has damaged the ECU. It's just that my mate has wasted two months and several dollars already on this guy and his excuses that he just wants it fixed so he can ride.

i've not played with anything modern like this but curious to know when 'mapped' 'altered' or whatever it's called would the alteration be detailing individual cylinders?
basic theory would wonder what the reason is to go into this sort of detail, with the exception of using one cylinder as a rev limiter.

[Edbear]

i've not played with anything modern like this but curious to know when 'mapped' 'altered' or whatever it's called would the alteration be detailing individual cylinders?
basic theory would wonder what the reason is to go into this sort of detail, with the exception of using one cylinder as a rev limiter.

I don't know mate. It's out of my area of expertise, that's for sure. He's going to call me a bit later so I'll get an update.

[jonbuoy]

i've not played with anything modern like this but curious to know when 'mapped' 'altered' or whatever it's called would the alteration be detailing individual cylinders?
basic theory would wonder what the reason is to go into this sort of detail, with the exception of using one cylinder as a rev limiter.

If it's sequential with a cam sensor you can trim fuel to individual cylinders and get the EGT or AFR spot on to allow for intake exhaust differences. Not sure you gain much power - seems to more affect emmsions.

[jonbuoy]

Not everyone is an IT wizz or grew up with computers and you could say if the guy had studied programming he too could have sorted his ECU problem himself. Did you know that even IT contractors employed by big companies dont get it right first time or at all meaning its an industry with a lot of people who make false claims about their ability in order to get work. If you think dealers do not have to gurantee their work out of warranty you need to read the Fair Trading Act. I am aware that some car dealers are only offering mechanical warranties with their vehicles which maybe what you are getting at but you have the option not to buy that brand too.

Embedded ECU programming and "IT" are completely different fields. To reverse engineer and re-flash a manufacturers ECU is not something many people will be able to do- chances are the guy has aftermarket software to tweak the ECU in question.

Sometimes contractors don't get it right because they screwed up and sometimes they don't get it right because someone else sold them a product that doesn't work and sometimes things that should work together just don't.

Re-flashing an ECU with a custom map will almost certainly void manufacturers warranty. Re-flashing any hardware always carries a risk that something will go wrong and you will be left with a dead unit that can't be re-flashed. Or left with a "new" version that's worse than the old versions but cant be rolled back.