MotoGP 2016

[Bass]

I wonder if the heated rims I joked about might actually have merit bow. Dani could do with more tyre temp.

It would be a really interesting technical challenge, persuading the tyres to conduct enough heat from the bead to the working surface. It might even need special heat conducting material to be built into the tyre. Then there's the issue of getting sufficient energy to the rim.

I wouldn't mind spending a few years working on that if someone would pay me.

Don't chuck your electric warmers just yet.

[Drew]

It would be a really interesting technical challenge, persuading the tyres to conduct enough heat from the bead to the working surface. It might even need special heat conducting material to be built into the tyre. Then there's the issue of getting sufficient energy to the rim.

I wouldn't mind spending a few years working on that if someone would pay me.

Don't chuck your electric warmers just yet.

Heating the surface is not the battle. It's the carcass ya want warmed.

[actungbaby]

Yeah I agree, but I am a Binder fan... Apparently Honda is only making moto2 engines till 2018 - maybe KTM will step in?

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Thats till contract ends i should imagine they get another new one this one been extended till 2018 . with so few breakages

and million kms of racing and practice i doubt many other brands match that. but then again the cbr 600 rr getting droped from the range

when 2017 cbr 1000 rr comes out for next year. and teams voted to keep it one engine forumla for cost reasons

From what i was told ktm copyed honda designs for years in the dirtbike class anyways. someone told me gearboxs are virtually the same

[actungbaby]

There are better solutions but nobodies been willing to spend the money or time. The riders aren't interested in developing something either as they want to win now, not in a couple of years or so after the bugs have been worked out.

One of the reasons things like Moto2 and Moto3 are seen as inferior these days is the total lack of innovation going on. They're all cookie cutter bikes. Many of the iconic bikes of the past broke from the mold and did things a bit differently. The GSXR750, the original R1, the featherbed Nortons, the Ducati Monster etc. All did things differently and they set the standard for following bikes.

those are all production bikes apart from the norton not pure designed for racing but agree totally with the sentiment.

till those late 80,s designs superbikes where big eninges with crap roadbike deisgn chassis from previous decade design.

the plus side where got the numbers of riders avaible to compete and learn.

Not saying everyone has to like them. What pisses me off about it all is the people with the rose tinted glasses saying things are shit compared to how they used to be, eg Moto2 is shit compared to 250GPs. The machinery in Moto2 is functional compared to the artwork that was some of the 250GPs but as for the racing itself the entire field is closer together now than they ever have been in the past.

yes in the past even in the 50,s 60,s it was few riders on works bikes of into the distance apart from wet races and some brillence

from a very very talented people. i think was phil read said the ikes of even mike the bike and other of the era where from very privilleded up bringings and familys .

[actungbaby]

Heating the surface is not the battle. It's the carcass ya want warmed.

Thats called sun bathing mate and my carcass bit umm bigger than most lol

Thanks goodness sanity has returned

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/232...-concerns.html

I thought going back to the 70,s when barry sheene once quipped if you crashed in germany they be looking for you for weeks in the trees.

Very amazing loctation and sencery mind you in austria makes change from desert in quatar. ;-)

many many riders lost there lives over the years before some great men fought with terrible FIM that used to control the sport and of course prommotors

did just cared about the money . the attitude if you had any concerns where you where not brave enough and chould choose not to race.

I still remember one dark day in late 80,s when group of top 500cc riders booed the ppor sods that raced at misno after risked themselves.

The rider whent on to outlast them all and win superbike world title . forget his name was itailian.

[actungbaby]

The 750R and R1 were pretty natural progressions I think.

The beam frame was out of the box thinking I suppose, given that early examples were pretty porky it's done well to become the norm.

But manufacturers have spent money on different front ends...they were all shit from a lap time perspective. The Britten was a pig according to everyone but Guy Martin, and his pedegree hardly rates him as an authority. The BMW thing just doesn't give confidence. The only way to know where the limit on that is when you fall on your face. The Honda thing was so fucken technical no one could understand it. I've never read what it rode like that I can remember.
yeah i read that too dont know meant it didnt have the turn in speed or just bad manners who knows.
the elf /honda thing ;-) elf has patent of the single sided swing arm on my vfr bit heavy as a design on the vfr .

"steering steering speed is the answer or lack of according to rocket ron haslem who was reguarded as very good test rider
as well as poduim finisher on the three cylinder 500cc honda gp bike.

just cant get those centre steer bikes to match the telelscopic tubes . there flawed design but still work best for bikes on the lap watch.

he worked his arse of to get the thing competive. " from what arm chair enginner has read ;-)

Forks are fairly light, with GPS damper mapping can be made to do whatever they have to 99% of the time, and they're available the world over.

There's nowt need to go another way up front for the moment.

Exoskeleton monocoque incorporating the fairing would be where I saw it going next. Weight figures could be reduces to the point that it'd nearly need heated rims to get the tyres hot.

what about the suzuki GB design back in the day carbon tub spent fortune of there money suzuki factor took over crushed it ;-)

"Some of it seems to be stick with tradion and what looks good esp on production bikes average punter doesint like so called diffrent.

Must say the bmw front ends look over busy to me and look blah . if i ever won lotto arieal ace bike i think stick with fork tube option.

Girder front end look heavy and apart from great front brake preformance well lack of dive.

It seems to come down to front end feel or lack of but is that just case of getting mind past how things used to be (road use)

they say the latest Bimota tesi is actually great bike all these years later (20 plus )

I should imagine if you read up what kevin cameron has written you get good grasp the issue,s

[pritch]

BT Sport took over British coverage of MotoGP from Eurosport a couple of years back. From time to time I see a link that appears interesting but if I click on it it all that appears is a notice "Not available in your area". Bugger!

Today I discovered the BT Sport Podcast, it's available here: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/...095253573?mt=2
You can also get it as an app from wherever you get your Android stuff.

The BT commentary team comprises mainly:
Gavin Emmett who used to work for Dorna,
Keith Heuwen who is an ex racer and an experienced commentator,
Julian Ryder who has been commentating forever.

Others such as Suzy Perry, Colin Edwards, James Toseland etc apparently make appearances from time to time.

At about thirty minutes the BT Sport podcast is shorter than some of the others so it's easier to fit into your life. The latest issue looks at the forthcoming Austrian GP.

Photos from Austria show Redbull have been spending up large. There is a tunnel under the track, that is now named "The Walk of Heroes" and the walls feature huge photos of motorcycle and motor racing stars of the past. The facilities are reported to be new and of a high standard, although safety remains a concern. Stoner got the ball rolling but others have snce chimed in. The two main concerns being turns 8 and 10. The latter has been modified, although the modification appears to be painted on. Of turn 8 Rossi said something to the effect that at that point the bikes are going very fast and that wall is very close.

This is the fastest track on the GP calendar and there will likely be a new lap record set this weekend - weather permitting. The existing motorcycle lap record is held by Troy Bayliss.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Qual 1...



Track looks fucking awesome!

[mulletman]

DP had a wtf crash n slide...his bike landed on top of the tyre wall ! Lucky for Dani he just slid and ok.

[Crasherfromwayback]

DP had a wtf crash n slide...his bike landed on top of the tyre wall ! Lucky for Dani he just slid and ok.

Yeah was a nasty looking crash.

[pritch]

Well there's a surprise, fastest in FP1 Maverick Vinales. Go Suzuki!

[pritch]

Lots on overnight. Eugene Laverty and Iannone had a row. Laverty was offended that Iannone told him to get out of his way. Iannone thinks he may not have expressed himself clearly as his English is not great.

Jack Miller said he had a sore jaw because he had ridden the practice session with his teeth clenched. He rates the track "Fucking scary". And he's one of the two in the field that have been there before, although both he and Rossi were on small bikes on their previous visits.

Dorna are to introduce communications from the pit that will appear on the instrumentation of the bike. There was a chorus of "Ahhh bloody Rossi..." but Mat Oxley says Dorna have been working on this for a year or more. Basically the info that is currently communicated by pitboard will appear to the rider on the bike as well, and the TV producers having the option for it to appear on your screen at home.

The Ducati riders have moved up on the timesheets but Vinales is still quick. Poor Pedro is down in 19th.

Must set the TV to record qualifying...

[BMWST?]

BT Sport took over British coverage of MotoGP from Eurosport a couple of years back. From time to time I see a link that appears interesting but if I click on it it all that appears is a notice "Not available in your area". Bugger!

Today I discovered the BT Sport Podcast, it's available here: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/...095253573?mt=2
You can also get it as an app from wherever you get your Android stuff.

The BT commentary team comprises mainly:
Gavin Emmett who used to work for Dorna,
Keith Heuwen who is an ex racer and an experienced commentator,
Julian Ryder who has been commentating forever.

Others such as Suzy Perry, Colin Edwards, James Toseland etc apparently make appearances from time to time.

At about thirty minutes the BT Sport podcast is shorter than some of the others so it's easier to fit into your life. The latest issue looks at the forthcoming Austrian GP.

Photos from Austria show Redbull have been spending up large. There is a tunnel under the track, that is now named "The Walk of Heroes" and the walls feature huge photos of motorcycle and motor racing stars of the past. The facilities are reported to be new and of a high standard, although safety remains a concern. Stoner got the ball rolling but others have snce chimed in. The two main concerns being turns 8 and 10. The latter has been modified, although the modification appears to be painted on. Of turn 8 Rossi said something to the effect that at that point the bikes are going very fast and that wall is very close.

This is the fastest track on the GP calendar and there will likely be a new lap record set this weekend - weather permitting. The existing motorcycle lap record is held by Troy Bayliss.

Try the paddock pass pod cast too

[pritch]

Try the paddock pass pod cast too

And also the Motopod one - time permitting. I tend to listen to these while doing chores.

[Dadpole]

Meanwhile: At the pointy end I would not have a clue to pick for top 3.

I would pick a Honda (MM), a Ducati(AD) and a Yamaha (VR).

The order is a bridge too far for me though there will be much cheering at my place if Dovi gets the win.