MotoGP 2016

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not sure about the "scrapper" comment though, can't remember back to him and Simoncelli slugging it out in 250s. Just remember Barbera punting 58 into the gravel, because that pissed me off at the time.. .

Yeah, I probably should have prefaced it by saying that's what he's grown into.

Yeah he was fucking great on the 250's.

[carbonhed]

Yeah he was fucking great on the 250's.

Amazing how you can come up through 125's, 250's, 250 champ twice and not be a scrapper. Must have been some kind of voodoo magic kept him safe.

it'll be interesting to see if he can better Rossi's record on the Ducati now that beating him on the same bike has become more routine.

[Autech]

Wishful thinking every round so far Bro?

Nah, past form


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[pritch]

Nah, past form

If you keep picking it, sooner or later you'll be right.

[carbonhed]

Nah, past form


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So far it feels like he's learned from last year that he doesn't have to win every race even when he doesn't have the bike under him to do it.

Unfortunately that will make him even harder to beat in the championship.

[malcy25]

Amazing how you can come up through 125's, 250's, 250 champ twice and not be a scrapper. Must have been some kind of voodoo magic kept him safe.

it'll be interesting to see if he can better Rossi's record on the Ducati now that beating him on the same bike has become more routine.

I don't doubt he will actually create a race win on the Ducati, but being realistic - It's a far better beast now that Gigi is there, and Rossi could have conjured up a win too give a like for like bike that Lorenzo will probably inherit.

I've seen comment about Lorenzo being great on the duc as he and Stoner would ride it the same, but I don't really see how, Stoner was all aggression on it more like MM is on a bike. But as we all readily agree, Lorenzo likes the inch perfect smooth as style.

Gonna be interesting whatever way - both the rest of this year and the next 2. Question w2ill be how Yamaha handle it in terms of aiming for the win, knowing that JL is going...

[carbonhed]

I don't doubt he will actually create a race win on the Ducati, but being realistic - It's a far better beast now that Gigi is there, and Rossi could have conjured up a win too give a like for like bike that Lorenzo will probably inherit.

I've seen comment about Lorenzo being great on the duc as he and Stoner would ride it the same, but I don't really see how, Stoner was all aggression on it more like MM is on a bike. But as we all readily agree, Lorenzo likes the inch perfect smooth as style.

Gonna be interesting whatever way - both the rest of this year and the next 2. Question w2ill be how Yamaha handle it in terms of aiming for the win, knowing that JL is going...

Yeah. Marquez and Stoner seem like kindred spirits and outliers on every scale. Lorenzo is not like that.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nah, past form


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You mean his four world titles or summat?

[Reckless]

it'll be interesting to see if he can better Rossi's record on the Ducati now that beating him on the same bike has become more routine.

I'm a bit sour on Rossi after his antics last year but you cant compare the two era's. Stoner has a half way decent bike he rode the wheels off, then the factory completely lost its way with its nose up its own arse not listening to anyone until they where loosing so bad Audi had to take drastic measures. Along came Gigi and a new ethos and a new bike.
I'm not so sure how Lozenge will go on it especially with Stoner being the development rider and as stated above the styles are so different.
I wonder if Rossi saying he didnt have the balls to go, had anything to do with it (apart from the money of coarse) LOL

Good move or bad move its good for us, speculation and a swap round of riders. Still it looks like everyone is chasing the Honda and MM tho aye.
The little shit can wring the best out of anything I reckon bit like Stoner. Damn pity Stoner didn't have the passion to keep at it, maybe on a Yamaha for a season lol. Wonder who is Ducati going to dump??

[carbonhed]

I wonder if Rossi saying he didnt have the balls to go, had anything to do with it (apart from the money of coarse) LOL

I think the days of Rossi being able to play mind games ended when he was no longer the quickest on the grid.

And of course the Duc's a different beast now... but reminding the fanbois's of Flossi's abject failure on it never gets old.

[Reckless]

I think the days of Rossi being able to play mind games ended when he was no longer the quickest on the grid.

And of course the Duc's a different beast now... but reminding the fanbois's of Flossi's abject failure on it never gets old.

Agreed if anything he fucked his own head up last season. The games old now, time to stop playing it, he's only damaging his own legacy.
No one will ever know if MM was fucking with him or just doing what MM does race anyone, anytime, anyplace, (except MM of coarse) LOL

This season I think I'm more a fan of the racing itself, these rule changes have been really good, love not having a class within a class and other manufactures having a better shot

[carbonhed]

I wonder if Vinales is towing Rossi around in qualifying 2 so the dirty old wop will put a good word in for him the vacant seat at Yamaha?

[pritch]

From nine times world champion, idol of the crowds, GOAT*, and having held almost every record there is, to "dirty old wop"?
How the mighty have fallen. Tall poppy syndrome doesn't cover it; doesn't come close.











Yeah, yeah, I know about Ricky Carmichael...

[Autech]

You mean his four world titles or summat?

Nah his crash rate last year

"Of the four riders that won races in MotoGP this year, Marc Marquez fell most frequently with 13 accidents, followed by 3 each for eventual champion Jorge Lorenzo and Dani Pedrosa, and just 2 for Valentino Rossi. "
Read more at http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/225...ZU7rGehFfKq.99


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[Asher]

I would guess JL left Yamaha because he wasn't getting treated the way he wanted. I think he expected to be clearly Yamahas rider number 1, for obvious reasons. But Rossi isn't just a rider, he's a rider, a brand and a legacy so things are always going to skew in his favour.
He probably also wasn't happy the way Yamaha didn't defend him when he stupidly stuck his nose into the Sepang incident and the following fallout.
If anyone has watched 'Jorge Lorenzo Guerrero', which is a bit of a candid doco following him through the 2015 season and attempting to make him more likeable (didn't work for me).
Anyway in that doco he says that Rossi would be struggling all weekend then on raceday he would miraculously have a setup simular to his and be more competitive in the race.

To me all of that suggests he moved to Ducati to be their number 1 rider and be treated as such.