MotoGP 2016

**Autech** · 9th May 2016, 19:54

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

I dunno. I reckon the two seasons where he won the title were pretty fucking good.

Were they "mature" though?
2013 he prevailed in an awesome duel 'tween 3 riders, still managed to knock his team mate out of a race (Something all top riders have done at some stage).
2014 the only guy on a bike capable of beating him had massive arm pump issues, he still chucked a few races away at the end though pushing hard to beat the Yams. 2015 he biffed it down the track every other day on a bike which couldn't win.
2016 he has taken the points on offer so far and not made too bigger knob of himself. Yet.

Just my assessment of course biased 100%. Looking good though, I may start liking him again one day... I was a cunt at his age too.

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**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th May 2016, 20:01

Originally Posted by Drew

He had them both dead to rights man. Chased them down and could stop defending after the first post pass lap.

Lol. Crazy Joe was gonna catch Lorenzo, Rossi wasn't. And we both know MM was just letting his front tyre come in before he smoked Rossi! A gifted podium I tell ya! The second one no less...

Real fact is...HRC best get that pile of steaming poo sorted asap, else MM will hurt himself trying to win races on it!

**pritch** · 9th May 2016, 22:04

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

A gifted podium I tell ya!

How fast you are during the race doesn't matter, it is the results at the finish line that count. Rossi raced people and he didn't lose his front end, so he worked for it.

I agree with the comments about MMs growing maturity though. Partly it has been forced on him by the bike, but he has stated that he is now considering the championship rather than just the race. It seems he meant it.

**eldog** · 9th May 2016, 22:16

Originally Posted by pritch

How fast you are during the race doesn't matter, it is the results at the finish line that count. Rossi raced people and he didn't lose his front end, so he worked for it.

I agree with the comments about MMs growing maturity though. Partly it has been forced on him by the bike, but he has stated that he is now considering the championship rather than just the race. It seems he meant it.

=confidence

**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th May 2016, 22:46

Originally Posted by pritch

How fast you are during the race doesn't matter, it is the results at the finish line that count. Rossi raced people and he didn't lose his front end, so he worked for it.

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You should know me by now! Good on the Old Dog...he knows Michelins better than anyone else out there right now.

**sugilite:Me** · 9th May 2016, 22:57

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

You mean like how heaps of people have been speared by their own footpegs (my workmate included)?

Yep, me too, but you kinda cannot ride a bike without those - winglets however....

**Crasherfromwayback** · 9th May 2016, 23:12

Originally Posted by sugilite

Yep, me too, but you kinda cannot ride a bike without those - winglets however....

Could make 'em use floor boards!

**sugilite:Me** · 9th May 2016, 23:30

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Could make 'em use floor boards!

Carl Crashlow sure does

**manxkiwi** · 10th May 2016, 08:28

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

You should know me by now! Good on the Old Dog...he knows Michelins better than anyone else out there right now.

I find it hard to imagine there would much similarity to Michies of 7 years ago and todays offerings. 7 years in tyre technology is an eternity I would have thought.
Of course I could be completely wrong in this assumption.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 10th May 2016, 09:16

Originally Posted by manxkiwi

I find it hard to imagine there would much similarity to Michies of 7 years ago and todays offerings. 7 years in tyre technology is an eternity I would have thought.
Of course I could be completely wrong in this assumption.

See post # 1102. You may find not that much has changed after all.

**Autech** · 10th May 2016, 09:53

Originally Posted by pritch

How fast you are during the race doesn't matter, it is the results at the finish line that count. Rossi raced people and he didn't lose his front end, so he worked for it.

I agree with the comments about MMs growing maturity though. Partly it has been forced on him by the bike, but he has stated that he is now considering the championship rather than just the race. It seems he meant it.

Yup, only 1 Honda out of 6 finished the race on Sunday and that was with the 2nd most experienced (mature) rider on the grid on board (correct me if I'm wrong but in years in GP it would go: VR, DP, AD, JL?). So either the others are raving lunatics or Honda is in deep poo poos yet again.

Does anyone know what Casey Stoners feedback on the RCV was last year that they ignored? Did it go somewhere along the lines of: "Crickey mate, this bikes rougher than a sheila from Calgooolee. You blokes better make it easier to ride, fair dinkum."

**Badjelly** · 10th May 2016, 10:40

Originally Posted by Autech

Crickey mate, this bikes rougher than a sheila from Calgooolee. You blokes better make it easier to ride, fair dinkum.

Probably more like, "She's beaut, mate. Tell the little Spanish fuckers to stop bitching and ride it like they stole it."

**Autech** · 10th May 2016, 10:44

More feedback on the front tyres lack of feedback:

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/230...-his-hand.html

I think Aleix needs to give Maverick a few lessons in how to start a race, 12th to 6th in the first lap isn't half bad!

Just thinking that when they were using the rear with no grip for the last few rounds the front end crashes disappeared, now they have a rear tyre with good grip the front end crashes are back with a vengeance.
I haven't the time to compare but I'd imagine Lorenzo's race pace this at Le Mans would be as fast if not faster than on the Bridgestones in 2015 (as was Qatar), where as when they were on the slippery rear at Jerez the winning time was a lot slower.
So the rear tyre being so good is allowing the riders to push the front end a lot more, past some invisible barrier which it then decides to spit them off entirely without warning. Smith may be right, tyre pressure could very well be the cause as the tyre will be heating up as the race goes on...

**manxkiwi** · 10th May 2016, 11:23

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

See post # 1102. You may find not that much has changed after all.

He he, fair call. Symptoms may be similar. I guess the older riders simply have more experience all round. That may help them understand and get round tyre issues a bit better?