A1gp Rnd 1 (inc spoiler)

[k14]

Why didn't Halliday use the 'power boost' (probably just an increased rev limit) at all?
When he was attacking Duran, the graphics showed that it hadn't been triggered. Piquet had used his 7 times.

lol, you're reading it the wrong way round. That is how many power boosts the driver has left. Halliday used all his up trying to pass the mexican with about 10 laps or so left, but he still couldn't get past. Brands isn't really the track for passing I'd have to say. I think they get 10 power boosts per race, although im not 100% sure on that.

Oh yeah motu, first race was nearly as boring as F1. Watch the 2nd race and then you'll see what all the hype is about.

[Motu]

I heard he had used all his boost shots early in the long race,maybe the garaphics were wrong,maybe someone was telling bullshit - ah,it's almost like F1 already.what I hope is we avoid the fanboy bullshit.The pro/con Schumacher battles were tiresome - I reckon he's a shit driver and a cheat,half his titles should be stripped from him,a total wanker with a big chin.

[Lou Girardin]

lol, you're reading it the wrong way round. That is how many power boosts the driver has left. Halliday used all his up trying to pass the mexican with about 10 laps or so left, but he still couldn't get past. Brands isn't really the track for passing I'd have to say. I think they get 10 power boosts per race, although im not 100% sure on that.

Oh yeah motu, first race was nearly as boring as F1. Watch the 2nd race and then you'll see what all the hype is about.

They get 4 per race. And I'm reasonably sure that they said it was used boosts.
Can't trust commentators i gues.

[k14]

They get 4 per race. And I'm reasonably sure that they said it was used boosts.
Can't trust commentators i gues.

Nope, watching the same coverage as you and they explained it before one of the races. Said that the little display is how many power boosts the drivers have left. Makes sense when you think about it, brazil were creaming the field and didn't need to use many so had heaps left. Whereas we used them up trying to get past mexico and had 0 for the last 5 or 6 laps.

Where did you hear they get 4 per race? Maybe get 4 in the sprint race and then 10 in the long race. Definately more than 4 though. I will re watch the races I taped and see if i can hear what they say again.

[TwoSeven]

Its 8 in the long race (gives 30bhp), and I think the graphic that is being referred to is the one the commentators used occaisionally, which showed the number left, not used. He had heaps left up until the last part of the race (perhaps they were misreading it as well).

One of the moves where people were using the boost was to get the drive out of the corner on the main straight, it would allow them to get alongside which forced the pass (remember, the driver can only block once). On all the video footage I saw, he never did this (there are other corners too).

His problem to me, seemed that his passing attempts were being made to late. To pass you needed to dive one way to force the car in front to use up its block, then switch to the other (unless they didnt block). He was getting really close, diving to the side, getting blocked and then being forced to back off - he'd then drop back a few car lengths as the next corner appeared. I was watching some other drivers, and they were hitting the boost while still mid corner which gave them room to make the doubel maneuver.

I wonder if he was under team orders just to get the finish rather than to actually race, put that way is 'safe' driving seems to make sense. Being the first race of the year, I think that would be a sound decision for the team to make.

[k14]

Its 8 in the long race (gives 30bhp), and I think the graphic that is being referred to is the one the commentators used occaisionally, which showed the number left, not used. He had heaps left up until the last part of the race (perhaps they were misreading it as well).

One of the moves where people were using the boost was to get the drive out of the corner on the main straight, it would allow them to get alongside which forced the pass (remember, the driver can only block once). On all the video footage I saw, he never did this (there are other corners too).

His problem to me, seemed that his passing attempts were being made to late. To pass you needed to dive one way to force the car in front to use up its block, then switch to the other (unless they didnt block). He was getting really close, diving to the side, getting blocked and then being forced to back off - he'd then drop back a few car lengths as the next corner appeared. I was watching some other drivers, and they were hitting the boost while still mid corner which gave them room to make the doubel maneuver.

I wonder if he was under team orders just to get the finish rather than to actually race, put that way is 'safe' driving seems to make sense. Being the first race of the year, I think that would be a sound decision for the team to make.

To me it looked as though it was very difficult to pass down into the first corner unless you had alot more speed than the car infront. On multiple laps he went to go down the inside, after the mexican guy had gone down the left side of the straight and then as soon as he went down the inside the mexican guy blocked him leaving the only option to go round the outside. I don't think it was possible to go round the outside on that corner so he was stuffed. It stemmed from the fact that the front "straight" isn't actually a straight, its curved thus a block is a fairly grey area, as opposed to some of the circuits they will race on in the future where they will have long straight straights. Those races will be interesting, the power boost will come into play alot for those ones. It will be down to who can manage to conserve their own power boosts untill the other teams have used all of theirs up.

[Motu]

He come from practicaly last to 4th,if he did that without using any boost I reckon he's a fucking good driver,if he used all his boost doing it...ah,like...that's a problem?

[James Deuce]

He come from practicaly last to 4th,if he did that without using any boost I reckon he's a fucking good driver,if he used all his boost doing it...ah,like...that's a problem?

Damn right Mr Motu, Matt Halliday is bloody good.

[Mooch]

i watched the sprint race, loved it but had to work so i recorded the rest..... i think... anyway, good racing and well impressive for someone who is not known that well internationally to do so well on a track he hes never been too.
One thing that pissed me off was the 3 guys doing a Haka in front of the car, its motor sport............WTF. it just looked stupid

Probably didn't look that great on TV , but it went down well trackside. Was done just by the main grandstand and was part of the international theme. They had all the drivers go past in Taxi's. Halliday and a few others made an effort by sitting out of the passengers window so the 50,000 crowd could see then , unlkike some drivers that were too busy doing cellphone interviews to be bothered to wave to the crowd. Thought about giving the haka boys a bit of a hand , but being similar in size and only 16th thought I'd best not to.
Will done NZ team !.

[Mooch]

Damn right Mr Motu, Matt Halliday is bloody good.

Halliday was the talk of the trackside commentators , saying he'd be the one to watch. Was interesting to watch Halliday with PK jr chasing , JR wasn't gaining anything which was probably just as well , would have put us a lap down. Show's that halliday is more than up to it. Brilliant team tatics in making the pit stop straight away , would out well with the saftey car. Pitty about that driver 3 laps down holding up everybody else , could have made a real exciting finish , reackon they would have caught the aussie in second place going by the sprint race.
Was a great day apart from taking 2 1/2 hours to get out of the carpark after. Brands hatch must have some of the worst traffic management in the world !.

[Brian d marge]

[QUOTE=Mooch
Was a great day apart from taking 2 1/2 hours to get out of the carpark after. Brands hatch must have some of the worst traffic management in the world !.[/QUOTE]

Try 6 hours from Motegi at a grand speed of ....20 km ....well actually we sat around 9 km with bursts up to 20 .......

The problem with live ..is u cant see all the track as you can on tv ...We tried to watch the TV in the car at motegi ,,but no could see ..and the big screen tv ( for oldies like me ) was hard to see,,, What would have been good ..would be something like what has been aired on motogp ..Semi live as in a few sec delay ...downloadable to a lap top
As in I could watch tv like comentary , streaming video while sitting in the stands ...and every few min look up to see them go past ...oh well dreams eh ,,,,

Talking to one or two people here ,,,still dont know about A1 ...whats that they said ,,,,,,

Stephen

[TwoSeven]

He come from practicaly last to 4th,if he did that without using any boost I reckon he's a fucking good driver,if he used all his boost doing it...ah,like...that's a problem?

Umm.. its wasnt last to 4th by good driving. Its was a few places from last by 1) many people in front crashing out 2) performing a shorter pitstop than everyone else.

The commentators point this out when he suddenly appears in 4th. Its why I said in an earlier post that he basically didnt try to pass anyone which was a bit disapointing given that the rest of the field were giving it everything.

If he had done a mika hakkenen and driven up thru the field, then I would have been impressed.

[Motu]

When Mika did that Murray Walker never said a peep,if Schumacher does it he's a God.No one else passed as many cars in the race as Haliday,I don't care how he did it,it was a masterful drive.There are a hell a hell of a lot of drivers in that race who deserve a roasting,even Nelson PK for being so obviously out of class,why are you picking on the guy who was by ALL accounts the most outstanding performer of the whole weekend.....were you run over by a Halidig as a child?

[Mooch]

Umm.. its wasnt last to 4th by good driving. Its was a few places from last by 1) many people in front crashing out 2) performing a shorter pitstop than everyone else.

The commentators point this out when he suddenly appears in 4th. Its why I said in an earlier post that he basically didnt try to pass anyone which was a bit disapointing given that the rest of the field were giving it everything.

If he had done a mika hakkenen and driven up thru the field, then I would have been impressed.

I also think his style of driving is smoother than most , so doesn't look as he's trying as hard . I think he was hoping the two cars further up which were one or more laps down would pull aside. Didn't happen. One think you notice more trackside is how steep the track is in places , the corners also change from positive to negitive camber making it hard enough to hold a racing line yet alone pass someone . I guess in the end they choose to take the points instead of risking crash and bust.

[Lou Girardin]

even Nelson PK for being so obviously out of class,

How do you mean?