According to New Zealand police spokeswaffles, we deserve to have our stuff stolen

[RDJ]

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-t...ectid=11560090

Apparently it's our fault thieves are thieves.

This is simply politically-correct evacuated content of bulls' colons.

Where there is a will there is a way and a shiny new car with lots of goodies can be too much of a temptation for an enterprising thief. The reason I am raising this issue is that a spate of carpark thefts have left police concerned and prompted a warning to people to "lock it or lose it". Hawke's Bay Police have told us they have seen an expected increase in thefts from cars as the weather heats up and people leave vehicles parked in scenic-spot carparks.

Pure Nonsense on Stilts. Just because something is visible, should not mean that it is offered up to be stolen. Thieves steal people's time, the time we spent working to buy what was stolen. Thieves should be sentenced to serious jail time because they have stolen people's time. The fact the police see fit to warn the people who own what is stolen, rather than spend time warning and catching the people who steal, speaks volumes of how politically correct and impotent the NZ police Hierarchy are. (Except when trying to frame up the innocents - Thomas, Watson, etc.)

I'm sure the representative Police Hierarchy Tongue-bathers will be out in force shortly to repudiate this post. Fine, bring it on.

[bogan]

Stop whinging, it's not like there is a 'theives today' where they can advise theiving cunts to stop nicking your shit, so why not advise the potential nickees to smarten up.

Lock it or lose it is shit advice for many spots anyway, few areas of HB where it's better to leave shit unlocked so you don't get a smashed window to add to the nicked goods. Mind you, still worth locking if you are in a soup kitchen prone area.

[RDJ]

Stop whinging, it's not like there is a 'theives today' where they can advise theiving cunts to stop nicking your shit, so why not advise the potential nickees to smarten up.

Lock it or lose it is shit advice for many spots anyway, few areas of HB where it's better to leave shit unlocked so you don't get a smashed window to add to the nicked goods. Mind you, still worth locking if you are in a soup kitchen prone area.

Well, you were very quick to prove my point. There is no possible logical reason why people should feel free to steal stuff without severe sanctions being imposed by both the police and the courts. You're demonstrating a very advanced case of Stockholm syndrome. Completely expectedly.

[bogan]

Well, you were very quick to prove my point. There is no possible logical reason why people should feel free to steal stuff without severe sanctions being imposed by both the police and the courts. You're demonstrating a very advanced case of Stockholm syndrome. Completely expectedly.

Of course not. But do you want to go door-knocking around flaxmere telling anyone who looks a bit shifty to stop nicking shit? Or have you come up with some other fantastic way to stop shit getting nicked out of car parks? Some people whinge about the state of things without doing fuck-all, while others will attempt to redress the problem from whatever angle they can; I'm happy about the group I fall into, are you?

[R650R]

Apparently it's our fault thieves are thieves.

Wellllllllllllllll if you REALLY feel you have the right to leave your wallet, ipad, phone and laptop on the front seat of your car in remote areas where from the carpark the thieves have a great view of if anyone is coming.... then be my guest.
I'd rather your car get broken into than mine.
Even the army/NZDF practice this mantra with leaving barracks or premises unsecure be regarded as equally low as thieving itself.

Most of what they are talking about happens in school holidays during which times I avoid many of these popular walkways. Feral late teens on welfare will smash your windows if it looks like something is in there, your dealing with the lowest common demoninator. Meanwhile the rest of us are paying for your laziness sin higher insurance premiums.

[RDJ]

Of course not. But do you want to go door-knocking around flaxmere telling anyone who looks a bit shifty to stop nicking shit? Or have you come up with some other fantastic way to stop shit getting nicked out of car parks? Some people whinge about the state of things without doing fuck-all, while others will attempt to redress the problem from whatever angle they can; I'm happy about the group I fall into, are you?

Yes, I'm happy with the group I fall into. I pay my way, and regard the people who don't as parasitic excrescences on the body politic. If you want to redress the problem about people stealing things, tackle the thieves not the people stolen from.

[jonbuoy]

Of course not. But do you want to go door-knocking around flaxmere telling anyone who looks a bit shifty to stop nicking shit? Or have you come up with some other fantastic way to stop shit getting nicked out of car parks? Some people whinge about the state of things without doing fuck-all, while others will attempt to redress the problem from whatever angle they can; I'm happy about the group I fall into, are you?

You mean something like a hidden speed trap at the bottom of a hill? Say a car left with a bag on the back seat in in a known area? Or a patrol car to swing by the hot spots every few hours? Are you mad? You know it will cost the government money to prosecute anyone they catch - no point in fining arresting someone who doesn't have any money.

[RDJ]

Wellllllllllllllll if you REALLY feel you have the right to leave your wallet, ipad, phone and laptop on the front seat of your car in remote areas where from the carpark the thieves have a great view of if anyone is coming.... then be my guest.
I'd rather your car get broken into than mine.
Even the army/NZDF practice this mantra with leaving barracks or premises unsecure be regarded as equally low as thieving itself.

Most of what they are talking about happens in school holidays during which times I avoid many of these popular walkways. Feral late teens on welfare will smash your windows if it looks like something is in there, your dealing with the lowest common demoninator. Meanwhile the rest of us are paying for your laziness sin higher insurance premiums.

I'm not lazy, I'm productive. I prefer not to subsidize the lazy, but since I am perforce paying taxes for the police, I expect them to enforce society's prohibitions against theft, not to encourage the ferals by advising their potential victims that it is the fault of people possessing stuff should they leave it visible. If you do not understand that concept, you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.

[bogan]

Yes, I'm happy with the group I fall into. I pay my way, and regard the people who don't as parasitic excrescences on the body politic. If you want to redress the problem about people stealing things, tackle the thieves not the people stolen from.

Does that mean you don't want to? Is all you are doing whinging about the state of things?

Edit: sorry that is not quite correct, I forgot to mention you're also whinging about how others are trying to help fix the state of things.

You mean something like a hidden speed trap at the bottom of a hill? Say a car left with a bag on the back in in a known area? Are you mad? You know it will cost the government money to prosecute anyone they catch - no point in fining arresting someone who doesn't have any money.

There we go, that's getting more constructive. But it's all policy change, I'd vote for it if it ever comes up, but what can we do in the meantime?

[RDJ]

I fully expected some to come out of the woodwork and say it is the fault of those who worked hard for material goods, to have made them available for people to steal. Predictable.

Any of you who have gone to a big bike rally in the US, will know that there are bait bikes out there with police watching to see who tries to steal them. A very good idea. IMO.

Of course, those of you who want to signal your virtue by feeling sorry for feral thieves and blaming the victims, will be unpersuaded. As the rest of us expect from low information voters.

[Ender EnZed]

People shouldn't pull out in front of motorcycles that have the right of way.

I guess in order to support this notion I'll go ahead and stop covering the brakes or paying any attention to vehicles approaching from side roads.

[tri boy]

Sharp machete, chopping block. Nuff said.

[P38]

Blunt machete, chopping block. Nuff said.

There fixed it for you Tri Boy.

Cheers
;pete

[yokel]

Sharp machete, chopping block. Nuff said.

Yo, you Muslim?

[mashman]