According to New Zealand police spokeswaffles, we deserve to have our stuff stolen

[Littleman]

Under the Prevention First model of Policing it's about saving as much money as possible. Outsourcing the work to the public/victims was always the easy option. Trying to teach or train common sense (such as hiding ones valuables out of sight) was always going to be a futile excersise.

Well done senior management in the NZ Police.

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[neels]

There will always be a percentage of the population who are fucktards that want to steal other people's stuff, as evidenced by the fact that a shithole like Australia has anyone living there, why would anyone have started an existance in such an inhospitable place unless they had been exiled for being a thieving prick.

Pretty simple rule in life is to be in control of your own destiny, such as not leaving shiny things where the inevitable scumbag thieves will want to steal it, it's easy to say they shouldn't steal much like it's easy to say that drunk slappers in short skirts shouldn't end up having sex with dubious consent, the reality is that it happens in the world so it's up to the individual to minimise their exposure to such things.

The police have better things to do than hang around to see if your wallet that you left in plan sight gets stolen.

[J.A.W.]

& over here in the former penal colonies/current police states, you will be fined for not locking your cage! I shit you not..

Now, the Islamites would have you hide your females away under lock & key when unescorted by their responsible men..
..but you wont hear the coppers upset Kiwi feminazis by suggesting a similar approach to avoid unwanted accostings of the distaff crowd, will ya..

[Tazz]

Some people whinge about the state of things without doing fuck-all, while others will attempt to redress the problem from whatever angle they can; I'm happy about the group I fall into, are you?

I'm not happy with how biased the popo are towards highway patrolling, however I mostly agree. You can never stop anyone stealing your stuff if they really want it, but you can slow them down or deter them.

Also, people say prostitution is the oldest profession, but I think stealing shit would have to out date that, shirley, so it's not a new problem.

[pritch]

Different way of stealing but... This guy is too thick to be a thief.
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[Virago]

A while back Dunedin City Council decided to engage their parking wardens to put big "reminder" notices on the windscreens of unlocked cars, or those with visible valuables. They eventually caved into public pressure to can the idea, when it was pointed out that they were making life easier for thieves, who simply had to cruise around looking for the notices.

[husaberg]

Anyone see Seven sharp, I am not one for badmouthing the pollies but seriously how much more info do they need.............

[RDJ]

A while back Dunedin City Council decided to engage their parking wardens to put big "reminder" notices on the windscreens of unlocked cars, or those with visible valuables. They eventually caved into public pressure to can the idea, when it was pointed out that they were making life easier for thieves, who simply had to cruise around looking for the notices.

Precisely. The same retarded philosophy favours putting up signs saying 'gun free zones' so crims know where they can go and shoot and not get hurt themselves.

And do the people who favour this "hide everything and it won't get stolen" really believe that the crims don't read the same publicity - they will still break in and do damage looking for what has been hidden?

To deter thieves, catchment and punishment work; challenging them to a game of hide and seek where you can lose your valuables but they don't lose anything except time, doesn't work.

[bogan]

Precisely. The same retarded philosophy favours putting up signs saying 'gun free zones' so crims know where they can go and shoot and not get hurt themselves.

And do the people who favour this "hide everything and it won't get stolen" really believe that the crims can read the same publicity and still break and do more damage looking for what has been hidden?

To deter thieves, catchment and punishment work; challenging them to a game of hide and seek where you can lose your valuables but they don't lose anything except time, doesn't work.

One of the many things you are overlooking, is it's a lot easier to catch a thief if they are preoccupied playing hide and seek. Thus it is also a deterrent to the thieves to start playing hide and seek to begin with.

Also, you're jumping to some pretty piss-poor conclusion if you think we favor it over enforcement. As said earlier, problems can be approached from many different directions. Unfortunately for you, bitching about other people's approaches is not generally accepted as a meritable form of problem solving

[R650R]

I'm not lazy, I'm productive. I prefer not to subsidize the lazy, but since I am perforce paying taxes for the police, I expect them to enforce society's prohibitions against theft, not to encourage the ferals by advising their potential victims that it is the fault of people possessing stuff should they leave it visible. If you do not understand that concept, you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.

But this is the level of dumbness you are dealing with http://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay...ectid=11562119

Do you think tools like this are going to smash the windows of cars with nothing on display or go for the ones with shit clearly visible on front seats etc.....

Your analogy is like having a spunky trophy wife for a missus, getting her pissed up drunk and expecting to leave her in a meatmarket bar/niteclub while you go off ten pin bowling with your mates and not expect to come back three hours later and find her bent over the bonnet of someones car.... If you provide temptation someone lower down the food chain will bite.
Its like not leaving poisons and soappowders under the sink cupboards as you know your toddlers might be tempted to eat it thinking its food. I wonder if the defective parents who still let this happen are the same people who leave valuables in plain site....
Sometimes the simplest actions can prevent tragedy and curb other bad things such as petty theft which is prob contributing to someones p-habit.

Do you leave your bike unlocked because its your right to leave it unlocked?

[Banditbandit]

I'm not lazy, I'm productive. I prefer not to subsidize the lazy, but since I am perforce paying taxes for the police, I expect them to enforce society's prohibitions against theft, not to encourage the ferals by advising their potential victims that it is the fault of people possessing stuff should they leave it visible. If you do not understand that concept, you are part of the problem and not part of the solution.

It is not the police's job to enforce prohibitions against theft - it is the police's job to catch the people who break those prohibitions - this is not the same thing.

If you are stupid enough to ignore the commonly known fact that there are theaves in our communities and leave your stuff out ... then you're just demonstrating a blindness to a known risk ...

[RDJ]

It is not the police's job to enforce prohibitions against theft - it is the police's job to catch the people who break those prohibitions - this is not the same thing.

If you are stupid enough to ignore the commonly known fact that there are theaves in our communities and leave your stuff out ... then you're just demonstrating a blindness to a known risk ...

By all means, argue 'ad hominem' it can be entertaining.

But you may wish to consider for a moment the possibility that many of us are fully aware that leaving stuff visible to thieves is completely consistent with believing that potential thieves should be so terrified by the possibility of being caught and condignly punished by the crime and punishment system that they leave other people's stuff alone and spend some of their time on earth earning their own.

A novel concept, but one which perhaps you could embrace? I.e., stuff you spent your time working to buy, you could keep.

Try it out sometime, as a possibility.

[Ocean1]

By all means, argue 'ad hominem' it can be entertaining.

But you may wish to consider for a moment the possibility that many of us are fully aware that leaving stuff visible to thieves is completely consistent with believing that potential thieves should be so terrified by the possibility of being caught and condignly punished by the crime and punishment system that they leave other people's stuff alone and spend some of their time on earth earning their own.

A novel concept, but one which perhaps you could embrace? I.e., stuff you spent your time working to buy, you could keep.

Try it out sometime, as a possibility.

This is 2015. They start out not having to cut their hair 'cause that rule don't apply to them. Not only does dad say so but his lawyer says so.

Interpolate from there.....