Damage at driving near redline when riding hard?

**imthatguy** · 29th December 2015, 21:46

Originally Posted by caspernz

You sound like you're trying too hard...

Can you ever "try too hard"

**Moise** · 30th December 2015, 00:16

SH22 is no longer a State Highway, hence its current state of disrepair. The correct name is now the Tuakau - Raglan Road.

I doubt you'll damage the engine by riding it hard, but I'd go easy on redlining during downshifts.

**WNJ** · 30th December 2015, 01:29

Originally Posted by imthatguy

As for going slow, thats not really the point. The challenge is to keep up because I know they have been riding for much longer and have faster / more modern rides ..

IMO, Firstly ,ride your own race , Secondly, If there your mates they should respect that your on a slightly slower bike and may be a bit behind, Thirdly, TEC picks up the "FAST" guys when they have an off

**mulletman** · 30th December 2015, 08:16

Id doubt your more than 5mins behind your mates at the end of the ride, so wouldn't be concerned about being a last. Just keep up with your maintenance (as your doing ) and hopefully you can upgrade to a 600/750 sooner.

**IkieBikie** · 30th December 2015, 11:35

Originally Posted by cassina

There has been a crash reported in the media where mates riding too close together have all gone down when the lead rider fell.

You know the story regarding this (quoted below) and you replied to it

I understand what you're saying, it's hard to focus on keeping you're own shit together when the person in front of you goes down and then throw gravel in the mix. All were also following at decent distances.

But in this case I think target fixation was only cause of the third rider to go down. There was five in the group, first one went down, second one made it through, the third and fourth didn't even see the first go down, the third went down because of gravel (same as first) and the fourth saw then go down and grabbed a handful of front brake and went off. The fifth saw it happening and managed to stop in time.

All of it happened under the speed limit as well, no real pressure to keep up as it wasn't a fast ride.

But you still go and make up your own story and own mind. You are as bad as the media - what an absolute shit stirring imbecile.

Do you have the ability to read or understand or do you lose it all in the cassina self importance fuzzy logic?

**caspernz** · 30th December 2015, 13:22

Originally Posted by imthatguy

Can you ever "try too hard"

Absolutely

**IkieBikie** · 30th December 2015, 13:26

All were also following at decent distances.

All of it happened under the speed limit as well

So where was the pressure to keep up as you seem to assume was happening??

Originally Posted by cassina

There has been a crash reported in the media where mates riding too close together have all gone down when the lead rider fell. So your safety is far from assured by riding under pressure to keep up.

If you read the posts carefully you might find "All were also following at decent distances" and"All of it happened under the speed limit as well" but NO!! You know better because the media according to you said "reported in the media where mates riding too close together"

Where does it state this in this article

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7546...d-near-tokoroa

Wake Up and get real - not every group ride is a race

**Tazz** · 30th December 2015, 14:29

Originally Posted by cassina

All the best then if you believe such a thing could never happen to you. I bet the guys that crashed never thought it would happen to them either.
If you read the posts carefully of a few other posters on here they also say there is a danger in trying to keep up with other riders.

People who can, simply, do.

People who can't tell everyone else to do nothing and create rules and hype only to protect them from their own stupidity.

I'd let you decide where you fall with that comment, but I'm not confident you'd figure it out on your own so....hint hint...the latter.

Ride your own ride. Fuck everyone else. It's not hard.

**Erelyes** · 30th December 2015, 22:45

Aiight since your first post was in Oct 14, which was about a 250, I'm gonna guess you're on your restricted.

I'll leave the 'keeping up with mates' thing alone.

Downshifting to bleed speed is fine (wise, even) but the bike shouldn't be hitting limiter when you do it. Far from 'stabilising the bike for the corner' you'll unsettle it.

Do you find yourself often changing up again, before the corner has even finished? You should be coming into a corner in a gear where you can roll it on gradually and not have to change up. (For these purposes, once you see corner exit AND you're at a point you can pin it, consider the corner ended.) Going through a corner on the limiter will achieve nowt.