Got side-swiped on the motorway

[nzspokes]

His blind spot is where he is no looking. If he doesn't look ... there is NO guaranteed way he will see you.

NEVER assume he (they) will (should) see you ... that is an invitation for pain.

Question ... in your original post you said you were on the motorway ... with traffic flow at 70-80 km/hr ... how come the traffic flow was so slow .. ????

Agreed, never assume a driver knows where you are or what you are about to do.

We had 2 black sport bikes come past us on Sunday on the North western. Guess they were coming back from the bike drags as they had numbers painted on the tanks. We were progressing through traffic but these 2 came through us at least 40 to 50kph faster. First one was 2 up with a girl on the back in jeans. Squids.

[FJRider]

The point of my questions is to establish if I'm about to end up in court and if my insurance will fuck me over!

Overall, I see myself technically legal but leaving far too little margin for idiocy/error.

Overtaking another vehicle on it's right ... in the same lane is legal .. but not leaving a sufficient safe distance between the two vehicles could be construed by the highway patrol as being unsafe. Thus ... a ticket may be issued.

Unless your policy forbids lane-splitting ... insurance payout should not be an issue. But expect an increase in your excess ...

[jonnyk5614]

If a driver knows it is nose to tail traffic the only reason he is going to use his mirrors before a lane change is if he is motorbike aware. Given the number of people splitting up there you would think they are but then there are always going to be many drivers that aren't who won't even look in their mirror. Buyer beware etc.

And getting back to the indicator thing. To me, seeing a bike splitting with the indicator on makes me think the rider has left it on by mistake. The alternative is to think that they are changing lanes so if a car driver did see you indicating in that brief moment he checks the mirror he probably thinks you are moving in to the other lane anyway. I cannot see any reason to use the indicator for this purpose other than trying to comply with some misinterpretation of the overtaking rule, to me it increases your risk.

Don't know how often you ride in Auckland but our motorways are clogged and there is usually a queue of bikes splitting between the lanes. To an Auckland diver, it isn't a radical new concept. Many even move over to help us get through.

I was parked up on the bus on an over bridge over the motorway on the North Shore this morning. Southbound traffic moving at 70/80 and counted 6 motorbikes splitting through at 90. It isn't unusual. I was probably only there for 20 seconds.

Law says that if overtaking, you must indicate. The cop checked that my indicator was on and working - it was. Some extra orange LEDs in the car's mirror are going to help you see bikes.

I really struggle with your "you wouldn't check a mirror before changing lane" comment.


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[SVboy]

Stop making excuses for the bloody perp.. I am a 3rd world fuckwit called Just Another Wanker, from a place well known for shit driving & dishonesty..

Edited to reflect reality. To the OP, well done for having the balls to come on here and reflect on your actions and possible mistakes. Hope you mend quickly.

[jonnyk5614]

Question ... in your original post you said you were on the motorway ... with traffic flow at 70-80 km/hr ... how come the traffic flow was so slow .. ????

That is pretty quick for Auckland.... 7pm - not too long after rush hour.


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[Oscar]

"Right" is a particularly condescending way to start a sentence, usually used by bully bosses preceding some kind of telling off,
That's why I didn't read the rest of the post.

You're a sensitive wee flower, ain't you?

Oft times "right" is used for emphasis to start a funny or involved tale.

As in - Right, have you heard this one..!

[swbarnett]

I grew up in the UK. Everyone thinks they leave a 2 sec gap, which is 56m at 100kph. They actually are closer to 1 sec but still - 28m.

Used to be like that here. I started riding when the only "lane-splitting" any biker did was at the lights (just not enough traffic).

I've been lane-splitting in Auckland for 2 years, yes at 80ks/90ks.

Just curious. Northern, Southern or Western motorway?

[BuzzardNZ]

Some of us can lanesplit, filter etc without bouncing off cars.

Surely that wouldn't include you would it? as you're far too fat to lane split

[jonnyk5614]

Used to be like that here. I started riding when the only "lane-splitting" any biker did was at the lights (just not enough traffic).


Just curious. Northern, Southern or Western motorway?

Southern - Central to Sylvia park


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[J.A.W.]

Edited to reflect reality...

To quote your good buddy Aka.. "Lolocaust"..

"Reflect" eh, too bad you fail to realize that a reflection is a 180' reversal..

As for your tenuous grasp on "reality" - that's yet another hilarious concept..

[nzspokes]

Surely that wouldn't include you would it? as you're far too fat to lane split

Least I do it on a clean bike....

[Berries]

Don't know how often you ride in Auckland but our motorways are clogged and there is usually a queue of bikes splitting between the lanes. To an Auckland diver, it isn't a radical new concept. Many even move over to help us get through.

Like I said, with the number of people splitting up there you would think that most drivers would be aware of motorbikes coming through but then some are oblivious and always will be.

[swbarnett]

Southern - Central to Sylvia park

I do Bombay to Central (with a nice bit of rural thrown in first). I'm not sure from memory but I think most of the shit lane changing I've seen has been south of Sylvia Park.

[Waihou Thumper]

I do Bombay to Central (with a nice bit of rural thrown in first). I'm not sure from memory but I think most of the shit lane changing I've seen has been south of Sylvia Park.

I had two in front of me this morning....They passed me and then quickly halted as there were two trucks, inside and out.
The first guy just went behind the first truck on the inside lane and then the other bloke was weaving between inside and out...
Then though 'fuck it' He went on the outside of the truck on the outside lane.....He had hazards on for some dickhead reason.
Both riders showed a blatent dis-regard for any road rules, passed me doing approx 70kph and then just flicked left and right as quickly as they changed their underpants....
Wankers!

Oh....forgot to add. Some Asian chick passed me doing 109 kph...(GPS) but a guess. She had her cellphone in her right hand and was txting and overtaking three cars!

[J.A.W.]

[I]I had two in front of me this morning...

Oh....forgot to add. Some Asian chick passed me doing 109 kph...(GPS) but a guess. She had her cellphone in her right hand and was txting and overtaking three cars!

Asian?

If I might be so bold.. ( & spared hypocritical remarks - for my plain colloquial, if possibly vulgar usage)..

"Slanty eye" - East Asian, or "darkie" - Indian sub-continental Asian?