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    PS. I am not in favour or against the barriers. They have their pros and cons, I am annoyed that if tptb think these are the best fit that they obfuscate anything that doesn't agree with them.

    There seems to be a real mentality of a decision was made lets justify it and bury or heads in the sand about new points of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppleganger View Post
    Try and read a little more of the reply given to the op dumb ass.
    They claim an up to 80% improvement in the death rate. If thats the case shouldnt all the crcuits be changing to this 'rider friendly' style of crash barrier.

    Scuba Steve

    Same answer to you numb nuts because the claim it is sooo much safer, god you guys are hard work....

    Come on cups cake keep up....

    You guys are part of the problem if your happy to sit around buying into this spin.
    you thick cunt, circuits aren't primarily designed with crash barriers in high risk spots, they have things called runoff and gravel traps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    you thick cunt, circuits aren't primarily designed with crash barriers in high risk spots, they have things called runoff and gravel traps.
    like Wanganui's Cemetry Circuit aye.

    I doubt WRB's were designed for head on crashes.

    I would like to see a WRB with a panel approx 400-600 high affixed to the wire rope, so us mere mortals on/off bikes can slide along it.

    A combination of wire rope forgiveness and panel (something like the plastic you see on those roadside barriers) without parts to catch ourselves on.

    Pretty hard to compare concrete barriers to wire rope ones - they always seem to be in different areas


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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    like Wanganui's Cemetry Circuit aye.
    No, they have unprotected shipping containers at the end of the straights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    No, they have unprotected shipping containers at the end of the straights.
    I was there, at least the shipping containers provided limited shade.

    I saw a couple of oooooooooh, yep I made it corners (once past those dip)

    A couple of riders went way wider and found they didn't get the same grip as when they hugged the corner like all the others


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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    No, they have unprotected shipping containers at the end of the straights.
    i honestly think that if there was protection in front of that and you guys had used that option it may well have flung Srivy into the container straight on and he'd be lot more hurt than he was.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    i honestly think that if there was protection in front of that and you guys had used that option it may well have flung Srivy into the container straight on and he'd be lot more hurt than he was.....
    I'm not complaining about it anymore, just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    like Wanganui's Cemetry Circuit aye.

    .....
    sorry, I forgot that that is a single use, purpose made circuit for racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    i honestly think that if there was protection in front of that and you guys had used that option it may well have flung Srivy into the container straight on and he'd be lot more hurt than he was.....
    would have to agree, cant just have knee jerk solutions, have to think through what could happen next, like what you have put forward could happen.

    It sure was hold my breath a few times as a few riders seemed to balance on the edge of the curbs, exiting the corners. Must admit It was good to watch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    sorry, I forgot that that is a single use, purpose made circuit for racing.
    and what would be the best circuit in the Nth Is in your opinion?

    I want to see a race there. Only been to Pukekohe, Wanganui & Taupo


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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post
    and what would be the best circuit in the Nth Is in your opinion?

    I want to see a race there. Only been to Pukekohe, Wanganui & Taupo
    Wanganui Isn't a race track, its a public Road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    Wanganui Isn't a race track, its a public Road.
    I did figure that out.... a race on a public road, has even more obstacles....

    You didn't recommend a RACE TRACK where I could see a decent race.

    didn't mean to derail thread....


    prefer those WRB when they are placed a wee way off the road with grass run off in between in case of SNARFU


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    If you're interested these are reports from Europe:EuroRap – Barriers to Change: designing safe roads for motorcyclists - 2008

    and FEMA – New Standards For Road Restraint Systems for Motorcyclists - 2012

    I guess if the road is safer for motorcyclists then it is safer for other road users...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    But riders with a brain would ride according to the possible danger they create in the same way as riding along roads with a high drop off if you loose it. Plastic waterfilled barriers would definitly be safer though but I guess are more expensive.
    Accidents are not necessarily caused by dumb riders or other road users. To me ROAD DESIGN incorporating what the road surface and drainage are all equally important causes of accidents.
    Even sun strike(whiteout) can cause accidents.

    I wasn't referring to using plastic water filled barriers, just using similar material to make a skin attached to the WRB, that would lessen damage to some poor unfortunate.

    Thanks for the info MOI


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    Quote Originally Posted by eldog View Post

    You didn't recommend a RACE TRACK where I could see a decent race.
    sorry, I forgot my last name was google.

    try Bruno or sepang.

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