Rule change submissions close 1 March 2016 - be in to win.

[Yow Ling]

Those KTM85's are available as a 105 as well
but seriously they are too quick and too dear they are basically a Reed valve RSA inside.
Hence my cylinder reed and 80cc only, thus no flash Harrys. otherwise far too many bikes would be made obsolete overnight and no one wants that.

I think the cost side of all this is a red herring, so what if they cost nearly $9,000 , FXRs used to cost $3500 nearly 15 years ago. You cant exclude a bike because of its new price, what if you buy a wreck on Tard me for $1500 or get a stolen one for a couple of hundy.

Most of the bikes in lightweight production are wrecks from Turners , imagine if they sent the $15,000 bike home.

I think 85s will be fine, but maybe a couple of years away if there is a problem with FXRs, it would be good to get the rules tidied up before we start introducing major changes.

the fast guys will always be fast , it is dumb to try and slow them down with picky rules

[TZ350]

Ive got an EFI idle air valve with a 16mm hole through it.

Sure you have, lets see it idle ...

[husaberg]

I think the cost side of all this is a red herring, so what if they cost nearly $9,000 , FXRs used to cost $3500 nearly 15 years ago. You cant exclude a bike because of its new price, what if you buy a wreck on Tard me for $1500 or get a stolen one for a couple of hundy.

Most of the bikes in lightweight production are wrecks from Turners , imagine if they sent the $15,000 bike home.

I think 85s will be fine, but maybe a couple of years away if there is a problem with FXRs, it would be good to get the rules tidied up before we start introducing major changes.

the fast guys will always be fast , it is dumb to try and slow them down with picky rules

I was attempting to keep it fair with something cost focused. Remember i am probably the most vocal objector of the MX85's anyway.

[kel]

. Then the arms race started (hot cams from over seas, kelford if asked nicely, etc...)...
The flood gates opened and other new stuff - performance parts... Etcetcetc... All allowed under the rules as they stood (all be it very grey).

There shall be no restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor, ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve springs
So Cams are open, pistons are open, ignitions are open, carbs are open, etc. What do you guys have in those engines that is grey then ...

[seymour14]

There shall be no restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor, ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve springs
So Cams are open, pistons are open, ignitions are open, carbs are open, etc. What do you guys have in those engines that is grey then ...

The dark side of the force...

[jasonu]

.... The whole 24mm carb equivalent rule seems to create more problems than it solves.

Do you know why that rule was introduced?

[Cheesy]

Sure you have, lets see it idle ...

Who said it has to idle? (well it works fine on my 4.5l RV8) Realistically though there is no reason it couldnt be done, I dont think most fly by wire systems have a separate idle control anymore and they can control 60mm up throttle bodies. Just pointing out an obvious loophole

[TZ350]

True, thanks. I am finding It's harder than it looks to develop simple workable rules.

[richban]

True, thanks. I am finding It's harder than it looks to develop simple workable rules.

Well what is the problem really at the moment? You are trying to figure the 24mm carb rule. That seams very very straight forward to me. 24mm hole in some carb. Boom done, sweet as mate. Can someone please point out a time when there was an official protest lodged in buckets.

People cry about the Derbi and bolt on bits. But who has had the balls to protest! You ether protest or you have no leg to stand on. Crying after the fact just comes across as exactly that. Crying coz you are a cry baby. Not talking about that other incident. handle bars hit the ground or did they? Glad I missed that ugly business.


(((re-bore))) This causes lots of discussion. Re-boring! Re-place bore, re-sleeve bore, Ditch the words rebore and replace with must not exceed capacity blah blah blah.

I have no agenda at all. I am building a 50 for F5 fun. Otherwise bucket racing has taken a back seat. More and more these discussions piss me off. Its just a bit of fun kids.

Please tell me this. How many of the posters in this tread were in the top 5 of ether the last GP. or the BOB. (I sure as fuck wasn't otherwise I would have totally won by miles ha ha ha).

[TZ350]

Can someone please point out a time when there was an official protest lodged in buckets.

How many of the posters in this tread were in the top 5 of ether the last GP. or the BOB. (I sure as fuck wasn't otherwise I would have totally won by miles ha ha ha).

Last race meeting at Mt Wellington.

And I have stood on the GP podium three times in my Bucket racing career.

[richban]

Last race meeting at Mt Wellington.

Really? What was the protest about. Bloody hell.

Was not talking about the past. I was talking about the last GP BOB.

[TALLIS]

Yes, I first hand hand have been protested (thanks Rob for the cash advance) I do tho agree somewhat of what rich is saying. If we are talking about clearing up 24mm carbs in the rules, it's not rocket science. If we want new engines introduced, different story. What we need is a bucket racers club, all bucket racers should have to have a membership, then we have a true gauge to pole members ( racers) and can sort out shit before asking mnz to change rules.

[richban]

Yes, I first hand hand have been protested (thanks Rob for the cash advance)

Ok. Well there I was thinking it never happened. Fuck a duck. It is proper motorsport then. Right, back to the shed to pull the 110 cylinder of the 50.

[husaberg]

Ok. Well there I was thinking it never happened. Fuck a duck. It is proper motorsport then. Right, back to the shed to pull the 110 cylinder of the 50.

Are you doing Mikes punchlines now Rich?
https://youtu.be/rtxbM7-jAD0

[TZ350]

What we need is a bucket racers club, all bucket racers should have to have a membership, then we have a true gauge to pole members ( racers) and can sort out shit before asking mnz to change rules.

This forum is the best we have, and why I started the thread so we could talk about the 24 and 110 thing after I was made aware of some squirrels working in secret on their own submissions.