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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    I think he means wording of the rules rather than physical measurement.

    In terms of plug, how does one deal with odd shaped inlets?
    With the AMA restrictor it was a simple go or no go.



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    With the AMA restrictor it was a simple go or no go.
    Quite flexible then? Or is everything round?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    That will get a few excited...
    make it you have to run a 45mm carb , no smaller , and the intake to handle it
    i'm over buckets

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    Put a semi colon after 104cc : then capital At....and it makes sense. 24mm equivalent in brackets after the sqmm figure...

    Why not put up a second version which has no restrictions on the inlet tracts. Get MNZ to poll licence holders as to which goes forward...In theory the remits are supposed to be circulated for discussion before the AGM so if it's in on time it's workable.

    And ignore Husa - that bloody S has become his mission in life. It can stay as it is thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bert View Post
    Quite flexible then? Or is everything round?
    Pretty sure the rules specified a round hole "X" diameter. KISS



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Pretty sure the rules specified a round hole "X" diameter. KISS
    You will no doubt have noted the tract(s) - I at least am thinking of twins, one gauge won't fit all.
    Also a lot of the std Keihins are oval throat as well as others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    You will no doubt have noted the tract(s) - I at least am thinking of twins, one gauge won't fit all.
    Also a lot of the std Keihins are oval throat as well as others.
    As Rob said he wanted to clarify the measurement procedure.
    I feel Two gauges is still easier. KISS
    Besides we could just get rid of them if they don't fit my one gauge idea



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    As Rob said he wanted to clarify the measurement procedure.
    I feel Two gauges is still easier. KISS
    Besides we could just get rid of them if they don't fit my one gauge idea
    Bugger that - if I've got to build a restricted inlet tract it's going to be as hard to verify area as i can make it. Formula for the area of an ellipse anyone ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Bugger that - if I've got to build a restricted inlet tract it's going to be as hard to verify area as i can make it. Formula for the area of an ellipse anyone ?
    Hence my KISS round bungy thingy, saves on potential arguments. Its surprising how many people can't actually read a vernier.



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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    Hence my KISS round bungy thingy, saves on potential arguments. Its surprising how many people can't actually read a vernier.
    You actually think I'm going to make it so that a vernier can reach the restriction ? I've got bore gauges and i'm damm well going to use them....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    You actually think I'm going to make it so that a vernier can reach the restriction ? I've got bore gauges and i'm damm well going to use them....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Formula for the area of an ellipse anyone ?
    A =pi × a × b
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer View Post
    Or remove said carb size rule all together and then said newbie doesn't have to get his knickers in a twist over rules and comes racing....
    This is probably the most simple solution
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Put a semi colon after 104cc : then capital At....and it makes sense. 24mm equivalent in brackets after the sqmm figure...
    Proposed MNZ rule 24.2 Engines must be derived from non-competition motorcycles. Motocross, Road Racing, Enduro and Go Kart motors and transmission parts are not permitted. There shall be no restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor, ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve springs or cooling system except for class eligibility. All engines must be normally aspirated except F4 4 stroke engines of less than 100cc capacity, which may be turbo or supercharged. F4 2 stroke engines over 104cc ; At some point in the inlet tract(s) between atmosphere and crankcase or barrel, the inlet tract(s) shall not exceed an area of 452mm2 (24mm equivalent) in total. For the purposes of measurement, EFI throttle body idle air circuit if any and carburettor air bleed jets and orifices shall be ignored. F5 4 stroke engines over 53cc are restricted to carburetion equivalent to a single 20mm carburettor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TZ350 View Post
    Proposed MNZ rule 24.2 Engines must be derived from non-competition motorcycles. Motocross, Road Racing, Enduro and Go Kart motors and transmission parts are not permitted. There shall be no restriction on the make, type or design of carburettor, ignition, exhaust, piston, cam, valve springs or cooling system except for class eligibility. All engines must be normally aspirated except F4 4 stroke engines of less than 100cc capacity, which may be turbo or supercharged. F4 2 stroke engines over 104cc ; At some point in the inlet tract(s) between atmosphere and crankcase or barrel, the inlet tract(s) shall not exceed an area of 452mm2 (24mm equivalent) in total. For the purposes of measurement, EFI throttle body idle air circuit if any and carburettor air bleed jets and orifices shall be ignored. F5 4 stroke engines over 53cc are restricted to carburetion equivalent to a single 20mm carburettor.
    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1130945850



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