The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[yokel]

Bullshit, the whole problem with this election is that is exactly what it is about. Your average voter is now too fucking stupid to vote based on policy and realistic outcomes, so they're going with a party vote (based on what they've always supported), or who says the most agreeable things (casual racism and bigotry seem in vogue). None of it is grounded in reality, just like you echo chamber fuckwits babbling on about giving a big fuck you to whatever buzzword for tptb strikes your fancy of the day. Donald is the biggest puppet running, clearly fucking delusional and only there for his ego. Can you even name one advantageous policy that he could actually pull off?

Well looks like you're one of those too fucking stupid voter types.

BTW anyone who says Trump is a racist or whatever is a bigoted moron.

Political correctness must die, its the reason why reality has become ungrounded.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well looks like you're one of those too fucking stupid voter types.

a bigoted moron.

.

You've described yourself to a *T*.

[Brian d marge]

A circus ... designed to keep u from looking at the real people in charge
Hitlary , Kaine .. off top of head their handlers are
Zbiginew Brzinsky.. money from Sheldon adelston and jp morgan ,
Trump and and pence same deal ,,,,but I can't remember who, AIPAC ?
Anyway both support isreal and isreal is the kingdom of Rothschild
So basically the boys have stitched up both side of the game .. it dont matter to them who ya vote for ... The agenda is going along nicely
And no amount of voting is going to cure that one

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[bogan]

Well looks like you're one of those too fucking stupid voter types.

BTW anyone who says Trump is a racist or whatever is a bigoted moron.

Political correctness must die, its the reason why reality has become ungrounded.

Perhaps in the interest of grounding your reality, you could explain those three points a bit better

[Grumph]

A circus ... designed to keep u from looking at the real people in charge
Hitlary , Kaine .. off top of head their handlers are
Zbiginew Brzinsky.. money from Sheldon adelston and jp morgan ,
Trump and and pence same deal ,,,,but I can't remember who, AIPAC ?
Anyway both support isreal and isreal is the kingdom of Rothschild
So basically the boys have stitched up both side of the game .. it dont matter to them who ya vote for ... The agenda is going along nicely
And no amount of voting is going to cure that one

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While I'm not going to question your presumptions, I would ask if you think that Trump will stay bought ?

Given his tendencies to make policy on the hoof, I suspect that those who are pulling the strings (if they exist) are losing control of him....

If this is so, then the conspiracy theorists will love the FBI today dropping the possibilty of charges against Hilary.

[yokel]

While I'm not going to question your presumptions, I would ask if you think that Trump will stay bought ?

Given his tendencies to make policy on the hoof, I suspect that those who are pulling the strings (if they exist) are losing control of him....

If this is so, then the conspiracy theorists will love the FBI today dropping the possibilty of charges against Hilary.

Time will tell, but I very much doubt Trump is a shill like say Bernie.

[yokel]

Fred Dagg probably got it right, "We don't know how lucky we are".

Voting in the US of A can be a real mission. It's a much more involved process than it is in NZ, they aren't just voting for a President there's a whole raft of "down ballot"
candidates to vote for as well.

They have had "yuge" queues around the block for early voting and they have had to keep some polling places open hours past closing time to process the waiting voters.
Trump says they were bussing in extra voters but that is reportedly not the case. At the 7.00PM closing time anyone already present is allowed to keep queueing until they have voted - and it took until 10.00PM in some cases.

Election day takes place on a week day which coupled with the requirement to queue for hours can make it difficult for people in an hourly paid job to vote. Then again in the south about 886 voting places have been closed to make it even more difficult. This and restrictive ID requirements designed to stop blacks, latinos, students and welfare recipients from voting make it difficult for anyone except a potential Republican voter. And the Republican candidate Trump complains the system is rigged?

If all that doesn't put you off voting, in some states Trump supporters will stand outside voting places with guns questioning people going in. All legal and it's no good complaining to the Police because the cop is likely to be a Trump supporter too. People have been advised to contact the FBI special phone lines if there is a problem of voter intimidation. Ringing somebody in Virginia is going to be fucking optimistic if you are virtually anywhere else in the USA.

Like Fred said, we don't how lucky we are.

”Blacks” Latinos and others voting is cultural appropriation so they shouldn't really be voting in the first place.

[Brian d marge]

While I'm not going to question your presumptions, I would ask if you think that Trump will stay bought ?

Given his tendencies to make policy on the hoof, I suspect that those who are pulling the strings (if they exist) are losing control of him....

If this is so, then the conspiracy theorists will love the FBI today dropping the possibilty of charges against Hilary.

Amazing what money and power does



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[yokel]

Amazing what money and power does



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And the threat of "suicide"

[Brian d marge]

And the threat of "suicide"

Oh the 2 bullets in the back of the head suicide?
Or the car accident in 50 m and the 2 bullets in the back of the head suicide


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[jasonu]

- Clinton must be really hated!

And there it is!!!!!

If ANY ONE of the other 14 republican primary candidates had become the Republican candidate for POTUS Hillary would not have a shit show.

[Voltaire]

And there it is!!!!!

If ANY ONE of the other 14 republican primary candidates had become the Republican candidate for POTUS Hillary would not have a shit show.

She must be pretty good at emails...600 000 of them..thats a lot of typing/reading, must be how she got the Secretary jobbie she had a while back.

[jasonu]

Fred Dagg probably got it right, "We don't know how lucky we are".

Voting in the US of A can be a real mission. It's a much more involved process than it is in NZ, they aren't just voting for a President there's a whole raft of "down ballot"
candidates to vote for as well.

They have had "yuge" queues around the block for early voting and they have had to keep some polling places open hours past closing time to process the waiting voters.
Trump says they were bussing in extra voters but that is reportedly not the case. At the 7.00PM closing time anyone already present is allowed to keep queueing until they have voted - and it took until 10.00PM in some cases.

Election day takes place on a week day which coupled with the requirement to queue for hours can make it difficult for people in an hourly paid job to vote. Then again in the south about 886 voting places have been closed to make it even more difficult. This and restrictive ID requirements designed to stop blacks, latinos, students and welfare recipients from voting make it difficult for anyone except a potential Republican voter. And the Republican candidate Trump complains the system is rigged?

If all that doesn't put you off voting, in some states Trump supporters will stand outside voting places with guns questioning people going in. All legal and it's no good complaining to the Police because the cop is likely to be a Trump supporter too. People have been advised to contact the FBI special phone lines if there is a problem of voter intimidation. Ringing somebody in Virginia is going to be fucking optimistic if you are virtually anywhere else in the USA.

Like Fred said, we don't how lucky we are.

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I voted from the comfort of my living room. Yes I had to vote on stuff as well as POTUS. It took me about 5 minutes and when I was done I put it in my mail box for the postee to deliver. It wasn't that difficult. The last time I voted in NZ I had to get in my car, drive to the polling station, wait in line, get the person to find my name on a list.....
Some states have different set ups. Generally most states have early (before election day) voting. If you are dumb enough to leave it to the last minute you deserve to be made to stand in a line out in the cold. Unfortunately a lot of Yanks like to leave shit to the last minute, you should see the lines for snow shovels at the Home Depot on the first day of snow fall...

'restrictive ID requirements designed to stop blacks, latinos, students and welfare recipients from voting make it difficult for anyone except a potential Republican voter.'
Not that restrictive. If you have a drivers license, a DMV issued photo ID ( both easily and cheaply obtained any time of the year) or a US passport you can vote for anyone they want to vote for. If you cannot get one of those government issued ID's you probably shouldn't be here in the first place let alone get to vote.

If all that doesn't put you off voting, in some states Trump supporters will stand outside voting places with guns questioning people going in. All legal and it's no good complaining to the Police because the cop is likely to be a Trump supporter too.'
Where did you get that shit from????? One of Katmans conspiracy sites...


Fred Dagg rocks!!!!!

[oldrider]

Hillary and Donald - just two sides of the same coin - heads I win tails you lose - business as usual.

[Katman]

I'm sure 'they've' got it all figured out.