The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Grumph]

If I were in Iran ... The all mighty would be getting extra doses of prayer ,

Not to worry, Russia's just agreed to sell them a world class missile and aircraft defence system....

Now, why do you think Putin did that.....

[pritch]

The only "dubious claims" I have posted have been straight from Trump's mouth...

This is one great thing about Trump. Over time his positions change radically. Sometimes it doesn't take long at all, he can do a 180 about turn in a single sentence.

An example of his words crippling him was the Executive Order implementing the muslim ban. The first amendment of the Constitution opposes religous discrimination so when it was challenged in court the Government tried to say it wasn't a ban and it wasn't specifically against muslims. So the lawyers for the opposition read to the court a list of statements from the orange-utan* saying he would introduce a muslim ban. Trump says he will take it further but he's batting 0 for 3 so far.

Comments from people who have seen the EOs that he has signed indicate that they are very amateurish. None of the procedures that would normally have been used have been followed, and they have obviously been written by people with no knowledge or experience of what is required. The wording would be laughable if they weren't so serious.

*I mean no disrespect to any orang-utan living or dead.

[pzkpfw]

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Comments from people who have seen the EOs that he has signed indicate that they are very amateurish. None of the procedures that would normally have been used have been followed, and they have obviously been written by people with no knowledge or experience of what is required. The wording would be laughable if they weren't so serious.
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Yep. Half his ticket was "I'm not a politician", and the claim he'd then be "better".

But what we're seeing is that running a country properly actually does take politicians (and diplomats, and bureaucrats, and experienced staff, ...).

[Brian d marge]

Not to worry, Russia's just agreed to sell them a world class missile and aircraft defence system....

Now, why do you think Putin did that.....

Phew , safe
Russian stuff may be old tech but it works

sent for a divine source

[yokel]

This is one great thing about Trump. Over time his positions change radically. Sometimes it doesn't take long at all, he can do a 180 about turn in a single sentence.

An example of his words crippling him was the Executive Order implementing the muslim ban. The first amendment of the Constitution opposes religous discrimination so when it was challenged in court the Government tried to say it wasn't a ban and it wasn't specifically against muslims. So the lawyers for the opposition read to the court a list of statements from the orange-utan* saying he would introduce a muslim ban. Trump says he will take it further but he's batting 0 for 3 so far.

Comments from people who have seen the EOs that he has signed indicate that they are very amateurish. None of the procedures that would normally have been used have been followed, and they have obviously been written by people with no knowledge or experience of what is required. The wording would be laughable if they weren't so serious.

*I mean no diesprespect to any orang-utan living or dead.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I would've thought you'd have to be a US citizen to be covered by the constitution?

And it's not a Muslim ban.

[pritch]

Correct me if I'm wrong, I would've thought you'd have to be a US citizen to be covered by the constitution?

And it's not a Muslim ban.

It may have escaped your notice, but Trump is a US citizen. Although it does appear his wife was an illegal immigrant.
Trump swore an oath, "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Trump disagrees with you, he said repeatedly that he would have a muslim ban. A Federal Court and an Appeals Court have decided his EO banning immigration from seven countries he had no business ties with, but from which no citizen had ever committed a terrorist attack in the USA, was in fact the muslim ban of which he spoke.

[yokel]

It may have escaped your notice, but Trump is a US citizen. Although it does appear his wife was an illegal immigrant.
Trump swore an oath, "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Trump disagrees with you, he said repeatedly that he would have a muslim ban. A Federal Court and an Appeals Court have decided his EO banning immigration from seven countries he had no business ties with, but from which no citizen had ever committed a terrorist attack in the USA, was in fact the muslim ban of which he spoke.

What's all that got to do with the US constitution Us citizens and dune coons from the middle east?

Moving on..

Trump was right again.

[pete376403]

A FB post described Trump as a "shit-flinging howler monkey" - seemed apt.

[Brian d marge]

I'm off on me travels again , ATM I'm in. Bum fk nowhere
Yesterday , I went to a temple , it's a thing to do ...boorin , but there were Chinese. Sorry China , ur as cute as a button holy fk there are some cute ones,. But NO idea of anything to do with the public , even doors ,
I thought it was a stereotype but no ...
Damn Donald , can we solve the China question, forget Sweden....

sent for a divine source

[pritch]

I was wondering if y’all had heard of Milo Yiannopoulos?

His Wikipedia bio starts out - “Milo Yiannopoulos is a British journalist, author, entrepreneur, public speaker, and senior editor for Breitbart News, a far-right news and opinion website based in the United States.”

Milo pretty much hates women, feminists, transexuals, and a whole host of other people probably including muslims and Mexicans. His mother was a Jewish Greek but he is British. He is also out and proud. He first came to my notice by the singular accomplishment of being banned by Twitter. To get banned from what at times appears to resemble a virtual sewer is really a bit special.

Milo has been actively seeking speaking engagements. There have been “riots” in protest at some of the universities at which he was booked to speak. Milo revels in the attention claiming that he is a champion of free speech. Many people who should have known better supported his free speech claims. He was on the Bill Maher Show last week and the host didn’t exactly cover himself in glory, not challenging much at all of what Milo said.

Milo is tight with Trump’s in-crowd, after all Breitbart is not a big organisation and both Trump’s top advisors also worked there and probably share many of his views. (Pardon me repeatedly calling him Milo but I’d get bloody RSI typing his surname all the time.)

Milo was due to address the Conservative Political Action Conference as key note speaker. Many people were wondering if the CPAC people had lost the plot making him the keynote speaker. He also had a publishing deal with Simon and Schuster for his upcoming book “Dangerous”.

Milo likes to say things that shock, but it seems that he doesn’t know his hosts as well as he thought. You see the Yanks are mostly rather prudish (at least in public). So when Milo during a TV interview expanded on his view that gay men should be permitted to have sex with boys as young as thirteen, the bubble suddenly burst. Bear in mind that the age of consent for heterosexual activity is eighteen in most states. Sex between gay men and thirteen year old boys is waaaay beyond what most Americans could contemplate.

Milo has been branded a paedophile, his keynote address has been cancelled, and his book deal has been cancelled. The disgusting little creep, might as well fuck off back to Britain and we will hopefully hear no more about him. Please pardon my schadenfreude.

[pritch]

What's all that got to do with the US constitution Us citizens and dune coons from the middle east?

Moving on..

Trump was right again.

I will write this in big letters, read it slowly.

Trump cannot sign an executive order that breaches the constitution. Ultimately the courts decide if he has done that.

The guy that made that video is another one who can't grasp the meaning of the word 'context'.

[husaberg]

What's all that got to do with the US constitution Us citizens and dune coons from the middle east?

Moving on..

Trump was right again.

The US consitution does not just cover the rights of its citizens, it covers legal rights in regards to creating laws etc.
https://www.senate.gov/civics/consti...nstitution.htm

[pritch]

Here is one that I seriously hope is fake news. The New York Times is reporting that Alex Jones has been hired by Trump to work in an advisory role.

Somebody over there needs to wake the fuck up and dump the orange-utan.

[TheDemonLord]

I was wondering if y’all had heard of Milo Yiannopoulos?

His Wikipedia bio starts out - “Milo Yiannopoulos is a British journalist, author, entrepreneur, public speaker, and senior editor for Breitbart News, a far-right news and opinion website based in the United States.”

Milo pretty much hates women, feminists, transexuals, and a whole host of other people probably including muslims and Mexicans. His mother was a Jewish Greek but he is British. He is also out and proud. He first came to my notice by the singular accomplishment of being banned by Twitter. To get banned from what at times appears to resemble a virtual sewer is really a bit special.

Milo has been actively seeking speaking engagements. There have been “riots” in protest at some of the universities at which he was booked to speak. Milo revels in the attention claiming that he is a champion of free speech. Many people who should have known better supported his free speech claims. He was on the Bill Maher Show last week and the host didn’t exactly cover himself in glory, not challenging much at all of what Milo said.

Milo is tight with Trump’s in-crowd, after all Breitbart is not a big organisation and both Trump’s top advisors also worked there and probably share many of his views. (Pardon me repeatedly calling him Milo but I’d get bloody RSI typing his surname all the time.)

Milo was due to address the Conservative Political Action Conference as key note speaker. Many people were wondering if the CPAC people had lost the plot making him the keynote speaker. He also had a publishing deal with Simon and Schuster for his upcoming book “Dangerous”.

Milo likes to say things that shock, but it seems that he doesn’t know his hosts as well as he thought. You see the Yanks are mostly rather prudish (at least in public). So when Milo during a TV interview expanded on his view that gay men should be permitted to have sex with boys as young as thirteen, the bubble suddenly burst. Bear in mind that the age of consent for heterosexual activity is eighteen in most states. Sex between gay men and thirteen year old boys is waaaay beyond what most Americans could contemplate.

Milo has been branded a paedophile, his keynote address has been cancelled, and his book deal has been cancelled. The disgusting little creep, might as well fuck off back to Britain and we will hopefully hear no more about him. Please pardon my schadenfreude.

Yeah - I quite enjoy Milo - That's certainly one perspective of Milo, I happen to hold another perspective.

[Grumph]

Here is one that I seriously hope is fake news. The New York Times is reporting that Alex Jones has been hired by Trump to work in an advisory role.

Somebody over there needs to wake the fuck up and dump the orange-utan.

I understand the Aussies like to call him the "Tangerine ball-bag" Feel free to change to that if you prefer.

In other news, "evangelist" Pat Robertson claims that staring at Melania or a picture of same can turn a gay man straight....
Personally, I think she's got a high profile stalker...