The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[pritch]

Bloody hell the world is being duped left right and centre!

Not least by that Russia Today programme. Hard to say what the truth is when there is such a shit storm of propaganda from all sides.

[pritch]

Trump opens his mouth and shoves in his foot - again. He is now on record as saying that nobody knew how complicated healthcare was. The Washington Post used the word "idiotic" to describe his statement.

I'll offer him a hint - and I don't even live in the USA. The Affordable Care Act (aka "Obama care" ) runs to some 11,000 pages. Anything that big is not simple, and only a complete fuckwit would assume it was.

If you want to check that information, feel free, but don't press print by mistake. That's 22 reams of copy paper right there.

[jasonu]

Yes. Although it's only possible to say that in comparison to Trump who has none at all.

Then why do you think Hillary lost?
If the Dems had backed pretty much ANYONE else (even a sack of spuds would have been a better bet than Hillary) they likely would have won. We had probably the two worst POTUS candidates ever and the best of a bad bunch won.

[oldrider]

Then why do you think Hillary lost?
If the Dems had backed pretty much ANYONE else (even a sack of spuds would have been a better bet than Hillary) they likely would have won. We had probably the two worst POTUS candidates ever and the best of a bad bunch won.

I'll drink to that - I believe the real controllers (whoever they are?) are taking the piss!

Simply proving to themselves how totally fucking stupid and malleable the electorate really is!

[husaberg]

Then why do you think Hillary lost?
If the Dems had backed pretty much ANYONE else (even a sack of spuds would have been a better bet than Hillary) they likely would have won. We had probably the two worst POTUS candidates ever and the best of a bad bunch won.

It was a popularity contest not a character assessment
I also not that there is a bit of a voting pattern.

[Katman]

Not least by that Russia Today programme.

Just because you might not like the story they're telling doesn't necessarily make it propaganda.

[Stylo]

Just because you might not like the story they're telling doesn't necessarily make it propaganda.

What's true though is he still hasn't released his tax details, been asked many times ..

Still waiting Donald ......

[oldrider]

What's true though is he still hasn't released his tax details, been asked many times ..

Still waiting Donald ......

Obama didn't produce a valid birth certificate either - still waiting Barack! - Do these things matter any more? Nobody seems to care!

[husaberg]

Obama didn't produce a valid birth certificate either - still waiting Barack Do these things matter any more? Nobody seems to care!

Whatever........

In April 2011, President Barack Obama sought to put end to rumors claiming that he was not a natural-born citizen of the United States by obtaining and releasing a copy of his long form birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii. Officials from that state certified that the copy of the certificate they provided to President Obama was authentic:
The Hawaii State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawaii,” Hawaii Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawaii.”
On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama’s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the
copies.

[oldrider]

OK eager beaver you missed the point of the post again!

[husaberg]

OK eager beaver you missed the point of the post again!

Obama didn't produce a valid birth certificate either - still waiting Barack!

Yeah whatever

[oldrider]

Obama didn't produce a valid birth certificate either - still waiting Barack! - Do these things matter any more? Nobody seems to care!

The point!

[Grumph]

Re Trump's tax returns. I doubt if they'll ever be released volountarily. While it's bad to be thought a tax dodging criminal conman...it's much worse to have it proved.
He'd better hope that they're not on a digital database somewhere as they'd be prime hacker targets.

[pzkpfw]

They aren't keen (Trump tax release):

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/america...se-tax-returns

https://thinkprogress.org/229-house-...260#.1prcid3se

[Brian d marge]

Good grief, even granny BBC got banned.

No, the BBC are the biggest bunch of mis informationists there are

They push the agenda so well, any real news is hidden 20 pages deep If you can find it



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