The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[oldrider]

with so many of the GOP voters saying they won't vote for Trump and Bernies ones not wanting to vote for Hillary, and with Hilary lagging behind Trump and Bernie leading Trump in the popularity stakes, maybe the email server thing pushes Hillary out and Bernie wins....

Ronnie had " Born in the USA " as his theme, I think Bill pinched Fleetwood Mac....

For the cream of this election I'm going with LCD Soundsystem.

Hey - coloured tinfoil - choice! got to get me some of that!

[jasonu]

There is talk of a Trump/Bernie debate in Ca. if Bernie agrees. Will be worth a watch.

[Voltaire]

There is talk of a Trump/Bernie debate in Ca. if Bernie agrees. Will be worth a watch.

He's agreed and the Don says he'll loose. As long as Don sticks to name calling, racism,sexism and so on and keeps off any policies he'll be fine.

[Katman]

Bernie Sanders is the only candidate with anything remotely resembling integrity.

And he has it in spades.

Shame he's not likely to get a shot.

[Swoop]

The Republicans being represented by Ronald McDonald Trump...

[Akzle]

y'all bang on about it like it fucken matters. Nothing will change. No jews will be harmed in the making.
Distracto-bullshit.

I note that although her website announces she will cooperate with the State Dept investigation into her use of a private email server, Clinton and some of her senior staff refused t be interviewed.

you're right. There's nothing more important to worry about than fucking mime headers.

[oldrider]

Call - Heads we win - Tails you lose!

Toss

Heads - (President Trump) = Zionism/Israel wins - Americans lose! ....... Tails - (President Clinton) = Americans lose - Israel/Zionism wins. .

[pritch]

There is talk of a Trump/Bernie debate in Ca. if Bernie agrees. Will be worth a watch.

The debate was Sander's suggestion and Trump agreed, then changed his mind. I think this idea might have originated from The Young Turks Network and if they get to host the debate it'll be live on Youtube. Trump may change his mind yet again because it's potentially a win/win for both of them.

Clinton had agreed to have more debates with Sanders but cancelled them because in her mind she has already won the nomination and needs to focus on Trump. A debate that excludes her would be just deserts. I hope it happens.

[pritch]

you're right. There's nothing more important to worry about than fucking mime headers.

Lots of people have private email accounts. Very few have a private email server. The not ureasonable conclusion is that you would only do that if you were trying to hide something?

[Voltaire]

If the Democrats go with Hillary they might not win, despite her winning all the primaries. She has a lot of baggage.

[pritch]

If the Democrats go with Hillary they might not win, despite her winning all the primaries. She has a lot of baggage.

She didn't win all of the primaries, Sanders won a lot. What she has in spades is the super delegates, many of whom have worked with/for her previously.
If enough of them get worried or scared and change their mind Sanders could still possibly be elected candidate at the convention. Something like that happened to her before when her super delegates voted for Obama.

Some of those primaries are exceedingly Mickey Mouse. Politics in this country don't fill my sole with hope but we are waaay better off than they are in the US of A.

[Grumph]

She didn't win all of the primaries, Sanders won a lot. What she has in spades is the super delegates, many of whom have worked with/for her previously.
If enough of them get worried or scared and change their mind Sanders could still possibly be elected candidate at the convention. Something like that happened to her before when her super delegates voted for Obama.

Some of those primaries are exceedingly Mickey Mouse. Politics in this country don't fill my sole with hope but we are waaay better off than they are in the US of A.

Agree, that is a possibilty. Last time round when the Dems chose Obama, most of the world would have been happy with Hilary but they wouldn't choose a woman..I said on a US based forum at the time that i thought Obama had too much baggage with the whole colour thing in the US. Got shouted down to the effect that they'd sooner have a black prez than a woman...Doubt much has changed, they're using her problems as a reason to drop her IMO.
we'll see.

[Voltaire]

She didn't win all of the primaries, Sanders won a lot. What she has in spades is the super delegates, many of whom have worked with/for her previously.
If enough of them get worried or scared and change their mind Sanders could still possibly be elected candidate at the convention. Something like that happened to her before when her super delegates voted for Obama.

Some of those primaries are exceedingly Mickey Mouse. Politics in this country don't fill my sole with hope but we are waaay better off than they are in the US of A.

I meant most...

The whole voting system is Mickey Mouse, its designed to keep the 1%'s interests secure with the illusion of Democracy.

How many Billions is spent to elect what is in essence a figurehead....

I might rebel in the next election and vote Green

[oldrider]

Unlimited unilateral support for Israel is foremost for every USA presidential candidate or there will be no MSM coverage or support! - So what's in it for America?

James David Colonel (USA retired) explains/questions the value of US military aid at the summit to reassess the US - Israel "Special Relationship"!



Israeli "skunk water spray weapon" being used against Palestinian people and their homes:http://972mag.com/watch-police-spray...schools/98840/

[Akzle]

Lots of people have private email accounts. Very few have a private email server. The not ureasonable conclusion is that you would only do that if you were trying to hide something?

actually a lot of people have their own web/mail servers.

you can buy yourself server space for very cheap. hell, you can plug a $40 raspberry pi in at home and run a mail server. a FQDN is all of $20/yr.
you may be unhappy with google et al's data mining, you may believe in the "right to be forgotten", the ability to backup, distribute, delete messages or content, you may believe in guaranteed uptime, PGP, encryption...

the not unreasonable conclusion is that as a "free human" she has the right to use things she can buy as she deems fit.

it has been ruled that "email is not private communication" (thanks NSA), but seriously, is she supposed to CC the fucken media on every message she sends??