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    Part of Trumps 2005 tax return has been leaked to the media. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...native-minimum

    Most of the tax paid was an "alternative minimum" which Trump had said he would repeal. The remaining $5.3 million is federal tax on a declared income of $150mill
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    I get the feeling he has realized there is something .... ( hamlet act 1 scene 4 , Marcellus to Horatio )

    he is starting to pull his head in , more in tune with the neocons ,

    Still he has a picture of Andrew Jackson on the wall and has changed the curtains to gold from what I have heard. If he continues , a massive headache may await

    as it did for the last 4? presidents who rocked the monetary boat .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d marge View Post
    only 50 days past
    I get the feeling he has realized there is something .... ( hamlet act 1 scene 4 , Marcellus to Horatio )

    he is starting to pull his head in , more in tune with the neocons ,

    Still he has a picture of Andrew Jackson on the wall and has changed the curtains to gold from what I have heard. If he continues , a massive headache may await

    as it did for the last 4? presidents who rocked the monetary boat .....
    True - he is full of promise - but with his total outpouring of love for Israel and everything Zion is he trying to have a bob each way and keep "everybody" just guessing?

    Personally at this stage I think he is well under control but I just can't help feeling a smidgion of optimism and hope that he might yet be the real deal!

    There is nothing else offering at the table anyway!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    There is nothing else offering at the table anyway!
    Wouldn't it be great if Bernie Sanders, Ron Paul and Jill Stein all got together and turned American politics on it's ear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Wouldn't it be great if Bernie Sanders, Ron Paul and Jill Stein all got together and turned American politics on it's ear.
    First they would need to retrieve the right for the country to control it's own money supply from the federal reserve for that to happen!

    Think back on American history and all the bloodshed that it took for them (the banking cartel) to get it set up in their current favour!

    They wont let it go without a fight and the people who need it most have got no bloody idea what it is that they would be fighting for!

    That is why we have the the situation we have got! - Knowledge is power and they hold and play all the aces in the pack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    That is why we have the the situation we have got! - Knowledge is power and they hold and play all the aces in the pack!
    Aces are only 4 cards in a pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    First they would need to retrieve the right for the country to control it's own money supply from the federal reserve for that to happen!

    Think back on American history and all the bloodshed that it took for them (the banking cartel) to get it set up in their current favour!

    They wont let it go without a fight and the people who need it most have got no bloody idea what it is that they would be fighting for!

    That is why we have the the situation we have got! - Knowledge is power and they hold and play all the aces in the pack!


    Trump is not controlled by the money men in the US. They won't even loan him money to bail him out - he had to turn to Deutsche Bank for that - and they deal in Russian mafia money - laundering it through people like Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    T and they deal in Russian mafia money - laundering it through people like Trump.
    Then there was the famous real estate deal where an oligarch paid Trump a $US60,000,000 profit on a house, making that house the most expensive house in US history. That deal got Trump out of deep financial shit at the time. Remarkably it seems the house has since been bulldozed. None of which makes much sense unless money laundering was in play?

    Deutchbank were fined millions by the US Govt under Obama. Trump is in hock to Deutchbank for millions. Be interesting to see if the penalty comes up for review?
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    Just who is the real threat?


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    Seems appropriate, Chihuahuas being Mexican and all: https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemoc...3532413739808/
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    So, Trump tells Merkel she was bugged by Obama too...Sounds like the punchline to a drunken joke.

    He seems to believe that the US magically changed into a different country as soon as he assumed office - with no responsibility for anything which had gone before. It's irrelevant whether or not she was bugged, he should be working with his agencies not against them.

    But I suppose if you're getting your intel from Breitbart and Fox, it's understandable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    So, Trump tells Merkel she was bugged by Obama too...Sounds like the punchline to a drunken joke.

    He seems to believe that the US magically changed into a different country as soon as he assumed office - with no responsibility for anything which had gone before. It's irrelevant whether or not she was bugged, he should be working with his agencies not against them.

    But I suppose if you're getting your intel from Breitbart and Fox, it's understandable...
    True damn it!

    If you were the one orchestrating all of this you would be laughing yourself sick at how gullible the world is!

    Unfortunately someone else is and it's not us - we are unwittingly amongst their bloody victims!

    Conspiracy theory? - if they want to call it that - sure, that will do for something to distract us from thinking about what is really going on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    So, Trump tells Merkel she was bugged by Obama too...Sounds like the punchline to a drunken joke.
    You do know that Obama approved the bugging of Angela Merkel's phone, don't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    You do know that Obama approved the bugging of Angela Merkel's phone, don't you?
    Yes - and I must assume that she is too - and that it's probably still bugged. So what ? that's normal international relations in this day and age...

    Where Trump is trying it on is because he's a US citizen - and Obama's team have already declared they didn't bug US citizens. He's saying he was treated as an enemy of the state. IMO he should have been too, LOL.

    And yes, I'm aware there is a statement coming out shortly from the Senate regarding the alleged bugging of Trump tower.

    Wouldn't surpise me to find that it was bugged - but by the Republican party to try and find ouit what the idiot was going to do next....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Yes - and I must assume that she is too - and that it's probably still bugged. So what ? that's normal international relations in this day and age...

    Where Trump is trying it on is because he's a US citizen - and Obama's team have already declared they didn't bug US citizens. He's saying he was treated as an enemy of the state. IMO he should have been too, LOL.

    And yes, I'm aware there is a statement coming out shortly from the Senate regarding the alleged bugging of Trump tower.

    Wouldn't surpise me to find that it was bugged - but by the Republican party to try and find ouit what the idiot was going to do next....
    I would be surprised if she wasn't aware of it especially since Obama personally apologised to her for it 4 years ago.
    Its really funny the indignation being expressed considering the whole world does it, it’s just the Americans are generally better at it.
    Trump is just trying to create a diversion to cover his own gross ineptitude.
    He will demand documents yet at the same time still fails to release his own tax returns and financial statements.



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