The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

**Laava** · 14th June 2019, 15:51

Originally Posted by pritch

I was unaware that the NZ fuzz were involved with Mr Khashoggi. Trump is indifferent to the deatrh of that particular gent because he, Trump, has been trying to sell nukes and other weaponry to the Saudi Govt and he doesn't want to upset MBS.

Well, yeah the NZ popo of course have zip to do with Khashoggi, my point was how easily these people are disposed of, with impunity, in other countries and condoned by the more powerful to boot!

edit, I am aware I don't really need to clarify that to you...

**oldrider** · 14th June 2019, 16:55

Don't Call It A False Flag: Iran Blamed For Tanker Attacks? -

**oldrider** · 14th June 2019, 17:00

https://twitter.com/jamesperloff

**Katman** · 14th June 2019, 17:14

Originally Posted by oldrider

Don't Call It A False Flag: Iran Blamed For Tanker Attacks?

How very convenient.

**austingtir** · 14th June 2019, 19:11

Originally Posted by pritch

I was unaware that the NZ fuzz were involved with Mr Khashoggi. Trump is indifferent to the deatrh of that particular gent because he, Trump, has been trying to sell nukes and other weaponry to the Saudi Govt and he doesn't want to upset MBS.

You realize the entire Khashoggi family has been running Drugs, Guns and probably all kinds of other illegal shit all over the world for the last 4 decades or more right? They were the goto people for every third world dictator dead and still living.

EVER HEARD OF IRAN CONTRA!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQzbhdrCJs8

The fucker even had his own boeing 747 for fucks sake!!

If anyone deserved to get cut into little bits its that fucker!

And muppets like you think he was a "journalist".

He was also part of the attempted coup against MBS!!

Holy fuck you people are dumb as shit. This is what happens when you only get your talking points from the MSM!

**austingtir** · 14th June 2019, 19:20

Originally Posted by oldrider

Don't Call It A False Flag: Iran Blamed For Tanker Attacks? -

Im all for the false flag narrative.....

But the Iranians look pretty silly when one of their magnetic mines doesnt explode and they have to scoot over to the ship thats still on fire with everyone watching and remove the "evidence".....

**pritch** · 14th June 2019, 21:47

Originally Posted by Katman

How very convenient.

This, whatever it was, allegedly occurred in the Gulf of Oman but seems to provoke a strong sense of deja vu.
Gulf of Tonkin and the USS Maddox anyone?

Wag The Dog?

**pritch** · 14th June 2019, 22:09

Y?all, well nearly all of you, will be aware that Trump thinks the F35 is invisible. For once he?s right, the?ve all been grounded.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

**oldrider** · 14th June 2019, 22:20

Originally Posted by austingtir

Im all for the false flag narrative.....

But the Iranians look pretty silly when one of their magnetic mines doesnt explode and they have to scoot over to the ship thats still on fire with everyone watching and remove the "evidence".....

Here is the video report from the American military - Yeah right! -

**Laava** · 15th June 2019, 00:33

Originally Posted by austingtir

Im all for the false flag narrative.....

But the Iranians look pretty silly when one of their magnetic mines doesnt explode and they have to scoot over to the ship thats still on fire with everyone watching and remove the "evidence".....

That didn't happen tho. You can be sure we never see video proving that Iran did this attack on a japanese ship while the japanese president is meeting with Irans leader.
It makes no sense whatsoever and especially not surprising given the increasingly aggresive anti Iran american narrative of late.
This was a piss weak story conjured up by stupid yanks to try and fool a world who is increasingly wary of good ol' american warmongering.

**austingtir** · 15th June 2019, 09:05

Originally Posted by Laava

That didn't happen tho. You can be sure we never see video proving that Iran did this attack on a japanese ship while the japanese president is meeting with Irans leader.
It makes no sense whatsoever and especially not surprising given the increasingly aggresive anti Iran american narrative of late.
This was a piss weak story conjured up by stupid yanks to try and fool a world who is increasingly wary of good ol' american warmongering.

This is better evidence than the "weapons of mass destruction" imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb5mISH9MmM

It should ultimately be pretty easy to prove who's boat that is and all claims iv seen point out that boat fits the profile of Iranian skiffs. All the evidence so far backs up what the USA has said. And im no fan of US foreign policy. Its pretty simple the Iranians MUST have radar in that area. If it wasnt them they will be able to release the radar data for all surface ships in the area. Every ship (probably hundreds of not thousands) going through that area also likely has pretty decent radar on board. This stuff is really not that difficult to prove.

And neither ship is actually japanese but may have been shipping oil there. I know one is owned by a norweigan holding company and the other is probably similar. Both holding companies are saying none of their ships are going near the gulf from now on.

**austingtir** · 15th June 2019, 09:22

Originally Posted by pritch

Y?all, well nearly all of you, will be aware that Trump thinks the F35 is invisible. For once he?s right, the?ve all been grounded.

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Acting like the F35 program is in any way shape or form "Trumps fault" is totally retarded and in fact he's come out many times saying he thinks the things are overpriced pieces of shit (without saying it like that to keep all the airforce/military people happy) and so have other white house staff.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...nst-f-35-54032

Fact of the matter is if Trump had been around and controlling the program from the start we know the issues it has now likely would of been sorted out far earlier than Trumps presidency.

As usually all past failures lead back to Clinton, Bush and Obama....

**Katman** · 15th June 2019, 09:36

Originally Posted by oldrider

Yeah right!

Yeah right indeed.

**austingtir** · 15th June 2019, 09:41

Originally Posted by Katman

Yeah right indeed.

And the sky is blue. If you people think the CIA ONLY lied and cheated and stole your kidding yourselves... Its what they do for a living. Id go as far as to say they've been involved in child/people smuggling rings, opiods shipments all around the world and all kinds of far more nefarious stuff than just lying and cheating.

**Laava** · 15th June 2019, 10:39

Originally Posted by austingtir

This is better evidence than the "weapons of mass destruction" imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb5mISH9MmM

It should ultimately be pretty easy to prove who's boat that is and all claims iv seen point out that boat fits the profile of Iranian skiffs. All the evidence so far backs up what the USA has said. And im no fan of US foreign policy. Its pretty simple the Iranians MUST have radar in that area. If it wasnt them they will be able to release the radar data for all surface ships in the area. Every ship (probably hundreds of not thousands) going through that area also likely has pretty decent radar on board. This stuff is really not that difficult to prove.

And neither ship is actually japanese but may have been shipping oil there. I know one is owned by a norweigan holding company and the other is probably similar. Both holding companies are saying none of their ships are going near the gulf from now on.

when you say, "this is better evidence than the weapons of mass destruction" it is meaningless as the USI never had ANY evidence.
At least this time they have a video of a boat, that could belong to anyone, anywhere and doing absolutely anything. At best, it looks like it has just boarded some people from another ship, that is not shown as being on fire. In no way does it bring to mind a covert operation removing ordinances from a ship.
if these mines even existed, they would be American made anyhow so they would have just been left there.
You really don't think anything through do you?
Laughable, at best!