‘Time to get out of these ridiculous endless wars’: Trump orders US pullback from Syrian border before Turkish operation begins https://www.rt.com/news/470361-us-syria-tribal-wars/ ?
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‘Time to get out of these ridiculous endless wars’: Trump orders US pullback from Syrian border before Turkish operation begins https://www.rt.com/news/470361-us-syria-tribal-wars/ ?
Geriatric hoon
When he announced this insanity my first thought was that Erdogan must have approved a Trump hotel in Turkey.Originally Posted by oldrider
This morning there are comments that he will have done it on Putin's instructions. And here you are posting the first approving article I've seen, and it's Russia Today. What a coincidence.
Should you think my use of the word 'insanity' inappropriate, consider this Trump tweet from this morning:
"As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!). They must, with Europe and others, watch over..."
(Emphasis mine.)
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L-Plate Rider
Considering he originally basically announced his foreign policy in 2016 when he was campaigning and is carrying out exactly what those that voted for him voted for I suspect you should save your hyperventilating outrage for later and wait and see what happens.
The way I see it, it cant be any worse than Obama and Hillaries foreign policy which got everyone in this mess to start with.
As if we need any more proof the average person is brainwashed:
"The USA meddles in other countries too much! they should not be the world police!"
"The USA leaving N. Syria will endanger the Kurds!!!" (when nobody really honestly gives a shit about the kurds anyway).
Its not a terrible decision imo as if Turkey does anything then Trump can paint them as the bad guys and im all for that.
And what cracks me up even further to you two's reaction to this is: “This does not constitute a withdrawal from Syria. We’re talking about a small number of troops that will move to other bases within Syria,” the official noted, citing 50-100 troops in the region.
50-100 troops.
LMFAO at the MSM and you idiots.
L-Plate Rider
Never stop Trolling you mad bastard:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...htmode%3Dfalse
Obama must of thought Hillary would do it.
Forum whore
Sure didn't take long for Turkey to begin the offensive against the former US allies.
it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
(PostalDave on ADVrider)
L-Plate Rider
Its all just further proof of why Turkey should of never been admitted into NATO.
They tell us in the west one thing but when you look into them they just constantly stabbing us in the back. They were buying ISIS oil off them when isis controlled those areas and helping them hop the border in and out of turkey to avoid the kurds/US/syrians killing them. They also were quite happy to let all the "refugees" fvck europe up among other things.
Now they clearly want all their pet terrorists back that the kurds have stored away in prisons.
That all said Trump has done a deal with the Turks I would imagine as long as they dont go completely crazy and start killing everyone he wont give much of a crap what they do as Iran is the bigger issue for Trump.
The Russia/Iran/Assad alliance has won the war in Syria. Saudi and the USA will now just try to minimize the damage. But imo the damage was done long ago because of the failed wars in Iraq and Afghanistan Iran now has a strong foothold in both countries and Syria now as well.
Trump is right the last near 20 years of wars in the middle east have been a geopolitical disaster.
Anarchic Wild Child
You are fucking kidding me !!!! Killing innocent people who were the allies (last week they were allies) and whose people have given their lives to fight on the same side as you, is not a big issue???
Fuck me - Trump, like you, is completely ammoral ..
bastard can't be trusted ..
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
The Majestic Metal Wizard
Except he's done exactly what he said he was going to do, not usually a reason to distrust someone.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
Hardcore Biker
This Middle Eastern (and US) politics is all so confusing for my old
brain. Especially this latest Turkish foray into eastern Syria (or into
"Syrian Kurdistan" for want of a clearer label).
1. Clear Messages
First, Don gives Erdogan a "message" that if he does something that
he (Trump) doesn't like, he (Trump) will "wreak destruction upon the
Turkish economy" if Turkey goes "off limits" :
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-49966216
So, what does "off limits" mean ?
Does it mean "defeat the YPG", or "kill scores of Kurdish civilians"
(in Syria) ?
or does it possibly mean:
Close airbases used by the US (like Incirclik) in Turkey ? Tell the
US to take their nuclear weapons home ?
I appreciate that it's hard to make all things crystal clear in 140
characters, but sometimes I wish Don would make the effort.
Perhaps two tweets next time ?
2. Allies and Alliances
Next, if he (Trump) is concerned about the Kurds, what's with this
business about "getting US forces out of harm's way", and "scuttling
across the border from Syrian Kurdistan to Iraqi Kurdistan" ?
https://southfront.org/dozens-of-u-s...st-syria-sana/
I mean, how does this work ?
You (supposedly) use the Syrian Kurds to "fight your ISIS battles".
But then when the Turks threaten to attack them (Syrian Kurds),
you (the US) first refuse to help defend them, and then second,
your forces "retreat" to Iraqi Kurdistan ?
Are the Syrian Kurds not getting a "rough deal" ?
Are the "Iraqi Kurds" not brothers-in-arms with the "Syrian Kurds" ?
Surely the Iraqi government (or what passes for it these days) has
something to say on this action by the US ?
The BBC published an article on "the Kurds" earlier, and I thought
that I was slowly starting to get an understanding:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29702440
But now I'm just confused again.
I just wish the US administration would paint a "clearer picture"
on what and who they stand for (in eastern Syria, at least).
Maybe I've just been looking at the "wrong picture ?
https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...ally-revealed/
L-Plate Rider
Trump had a phone call with Erdogan. Then this happened. Thats why I say they've done a deal. The MSM will hyperventilate their projected outrage and you will play along like you always do.... because "orange man bad".
Acting like anyone is innocent in a war is kinda absurd BTW.
As I said before the Kurds for the most part are a hard left based group. The US only backed them to stop ISIS and keep a foothold in Syria if the conditions changed enough for a full on intervention which it didnt. That is done (probably for now until the next iteration inevitably springs up).. If the Kurds wanted to be backed long term perhaps they shouldnt be such ardent leftist's they even had ANTIFA turds over there helping them who were even claiming they would go back to the USA with their "training" and wreck havoc.
Innocent my ass.
Its time for people in the west to wake up. The time of communist/hard socialist groups dictating to everyone what they can say and do is coming to an end.
Look at the recent happenings with the Houston Rockets owner and his complete and utter blunder in taking the knee for China's money. That entire thing is a total disgrace and the majority of americans are totally disgusted and sick and tired of US owned companies cow towing to china or similar for $$$$. Sure they are just being typical capitalists but that shit has to stop it wouldn't of flown during the cold war with Russia and it shouldnt fly now. There are plenty of dead US soldiers bodies in the ground that fought for this stuff just for one generation of halfwits to throw it all away.
People in NZ need to take a hard look at themselves to as we cowtow to China far to much as well.
Times are changing and it's well overdue.
L-Plate Rider
Its simple (kind of) the entire Syria war was a proxy war over gas pipelines to europe. We have Assad/Russia/Iran as one group and the USA/Kurds/Saudi Arabia backing the other pipeline route. Then we have the likes of Turkey and the Israeli's (just backing whoever fitted their interests the best in many cases ISIS)... While pretending to back the US and co.
The USA backing the Kurds was entirely to this aim. Now that the other side have clearly won this war the americans see it as nothing more than a money pit and are rightly getting out of it.
Thats the truth!
Hardcore Biker
Next, you'll be telling me that it is somehow related to the idea of Greece asIts simple (kind of) the entire Syria war was a proxy war over gas pipelines to europe. We have Assad/Russia/Iran as one group and the USA/Kurds/Saudi Arabia backing the other pipeline route. Then we have the likes of Turkey and the Israeli's (just backing whoever fitted their interests the best in many cases ISIS)... While pretending to back the US and co.
The USA backing the Kurds was entirely to this aim. Now that the other side have clearly won this war the americans see it as nothing more than a money pit and are rightly getting out of it.
Thats the truth!
a gas hub, and to some of the other recent goings-on in the Mediterranean
region e.g.
https://www.thenationalherald.com/20...ine-to-europe/
https://www.checkpointasia.net/eu-sa...aring-up-anti-
migrant-agreement/
https://russia-insider.com/en/econom...rn-med/ri27542
https://southfront.org/greece-expels...friendly-move/
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