The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[austingtir]

^^ Of course they wont.

I offered all the anti trumpers on this board a perma ban bet and NONE of them took me up on it. NOT ONE OF THEM!!

They are projecting and somehow mentally that makes them feel better inside somehow.

Its pathetic. They dont actually believe a word of what they say because they wont back it up.

[sugilite:Me]

^^ Of course they wont.

I offered all the anti trumpers on this board a perma ban bet and NONE of them took me up on it. NOT ONE OF THEM!!

You want to put a worthless one post profile up against those of us with 1000's of MOTORCYCLE related posts who have been here for years. It is similar to you putting one dollar down and betting it against my $1930
When I offered something more substantial, you initially took it, then ran away like a little girl. You then complained it was too complicated for you to understand - when it in fact was very simple.

[TheDemonLord]

You want to put a worthless one post profile up against those of us with 1000's of MOTORCYCLE related posts who have been here for years. It is similar to you putting one dollar down and betting it against my $1930
When I offered something more substantial, you initially took it, then ran away like a little girl. You then complained it was too complicated for you to understand - when it in fact was very simple.

No need for Bets, how about a Gentleman's agreement - I've stated my position, will you?

[sugilite:Me]

No need for Bets, how about a Gentleman's agreement - I've stated my position, will you?

Does it not come down to if the Republican run senate decides to impeach?

[jasonu]

No need for Bets, how about a Gentleman's agreement - I've stated my position, will you?

I'll bet anyone here it'll be Trump and National as winners in 2020.
KB membership bet???

[austingtir]

Its going to take a brave person to vote against this logic....

[sugilite:Me]

I'll bet anyone here it'll be Trump and National as winners in 2020.
KB membership bet???

Not keen on the national one, that is not a bet I would like to take because as far as I'm concerned Jacinda and Labor are doing a shit job of getting things done that they said the would.

[pzkpfw]

Here's a question - suppose for a Moment that the 'Impeachment' calls turn out to be as credible as the 'Russian interference' Hoax - what then?

I'll state for myself that if the President is successfully impeached, I'll acknowledge it.

But.

Will you do the same? If he doesn't get successfully impeached will you likewise drop your dislike of the President? Will you acknowledge that his supposed 'Crimes' aren't that at all?

I will say this now, I don't think so. I think the moment he beats the Impeachment (and I suspect he will), there will be some other political stunt/tactic thrown out at a convenient time, and all those that went along with the Russian Hoax, are going along with the Impeachment process will also go along with whatever happens next.

False dichotomy. If he's impeached, that's a fact you'd have to live with.

But if (and I believe the opposite of you) he beats the impeachment through legitimate means, that doesn't erase all the other crap he's said and done (even if not convicted for any of it).

So no, I won't drop my dislike off him, in your hypothetical. He's a despicable person regardless.

Geez, Obama has not been convicted of anything relevant - can you say that affects your liking or disliking of him?

[austingtir]

False dichotomy. If he's impeached, that's a fact you'd have to live with.

But if (and I believe the opposite of you) he beats the impeachment through legitimate means, that doesn't erase all the other crap he's said and done (even if not convicted for any of it).

So no, I won't drop my dislike off him, in your hypothetical. He's a despicable person regardless.

Geez, Obama has not been convicted of anything relevant - can you say that affects your liking or disliking of him?

Exactly what other crap has he said and done? Its all fake news mate. They've been trying to slander him for 4 years and still have turned up nothing its totally ridiculous and people like you that believe all that shit need to take a long hard look at yourselves!


ALL the evidence points to the entire thing being an outright COUP against a duly elected president.

[TheDemonLord]

False dichotomy. If he's impeached, that's a fact you'd have to live with.

But if (and I believe the opposite of you) he beats the impeachment through legitimate means, that doesn't erase all the other crap he's said and done (even if not convicted for any of it).

So no, I won't drop my dislike off him, in your hypothetical. He's a despicable person regardless.

Geez, Obama has not been convicted of anything relevant - can you say that affects your liking or disliking of him?

Can you quote me as to where I've called Obama a Criminal or accused him of being a Criminal? Or treated him like you treat Trump?

On the whole I'm not very anti-Obama - The critiques I could put to him was his Foreign Policy was lacklustre and his internal policy emboldened the raving Marxist Activists groups, by pandering to the Identity Politics crowd. I could probably nitpick a few more if I really wanted.

Not exactly frothing at the mouth hatred now is it? Certainly not calling him Despicable.



But thank you, you've proved entirely my point: Regardless of what happens, you will still judge him as guilty. So what is the point? After Impeachment you will still clamor for his removal, so there is no point trying to appease you.

You've already decided on the only acceptable verdict.

[TheDemonLord]

Does it not come down to if the Republican run senate decides to impeach?

Well, that is a possibility - however the Republicans haven't exactly been coy about making their dislike of Trump known.


The question will be if whatever evidence is presented, whether it is enough to sway the Senate to Impeach.

If the Evidence is Strong, then they probably will.
If the Evidence is the smoke, mirrors and hurt fee-fees that I suspect it is, then they probably won't.

[pzkpfw]

Can you quote me as to where I've called Obama a Criminal or accused him of being a Criminal? ...

I can't quote you saying something I never claimed you said.

... Or treated him like you treat Trump?

On the whole I'm not very anti-Obama - The critiques I could put to him was his Foreign Policy was lacklustre and his internal policy emboldened the raving Marxist Activists groups, by pandering to the Identity Politics crowd. I could probably nitpick a few more if I really wanted.

Not exactly frothing at the mouth hatred now is it? Certainly not calling him Despicable. ...

The point is, your post implied "no crime = no reason to dislike"; and I was giving a counterpoint with Obama as an example.

Maybe that's not directly applicable to you, by your claim here, but certainly applicable to the core of the Trump supporting crowd.

But thank you, you've proved entirely my point: Regardless of what happens, you will still judge him as guilty. So what is the point? After Impeachment you will still clamor for his removal, so there is no point trying to appease you.

You've already decided on the only acceptable verdict.

You're missing the point again. I did not proclaim him (Trump) guilty of any specific crime, so could not be deciding on the verdict.

In fact I was saying (in opposition to your post implying "no crime = no reason to dislike") that there are other (criminal or not) reasons to (continue to) dislike Trump.

Trump's been dis-likable from the start of his political career. I've seen the videos, I've heard the audio.

[austingtir]

^^
So your just "orange man bad" because the MSM told you so. Just as I thought.


The media has also taught you that Obama can do no wrong because he's black.


There's a theme here but you probably wont get it.

[pzkpfw]

^^
So your just "orange man bad" because the MSM told you so. Just as I thought.


The media has also taught you that Obama can do no wrong because he's black.


There's a theme here but you probably wont get it.

*you're

As in, "you're not worth noticing".

[austingtir]

*you're

As in, "you're not worth noticing".

You must be the 5th one on here to try tell me that and I still dont care, its just easier not to reach over to that key with the pinky finger....

An you always know you won an argument when people revert to being grammar nazis.