The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

**jasonu** · 2nd November 2019, 15:10

Originally Posted by pritch

Interesting if longish read in The Independent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9181641.html

In all of that the following paragraph struck me as the most interesting.

And the information being requested has left allies astonished. One British official with knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented that “it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services”.

Also completely unrelated to that, Trump has announced that henceforth he will be resident in Florida. This has people guessing as to what the motivation of the life long New Yorker might be. One suggestion concerns bankruptcy. Most US states exclude the primary dwelling from bankruptcy proceedings but limit the value, typically to around three to four hundred thousand. Florida has no limit. And Trump does have a history of bankruptcies.

Or
A lot of old people in the states move to Florida. Maybe he fancies the climate there.

**pritch** · 2nd November 2019, 15:14

The Daily Mail an undercover visit to Trump Doral, the venue Trump had proposed for the G7 (or G8 or?).

Even excluding the bedbugs things aren't that great.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...es-missed.html

**sugilite:Me** · 2nd November 2019, 16:12

Originally Posted by jasonu

Or
A lot of old people in the states move to Florida. Maybe he fancies the climate there.

You may be right, but my personal feelings are it also points to why he is so desperate to keep his tax records secret, never mind they will very likely show a lot of loans from Russian oligarchs. Which is a bad look for a US President to owe Russians money due to leverage yadda yadda.

**R650R** · 2nd November 2019, 16:34

Originally Posted by pritch

Also completely unrelated to that, Trump has announced that henceforth he will be resident in Florida. This has people guessing as to what the motivation of the life long New Yorker might be. One suggestion concerns bankruptcy. Most US states exclude the primary dwelling from bankruptcy proceedings but limit the value, typically to around three to four hundred thousand. Florida has no limit. And Trump does have a history of bankruptcies.

When your draining the swamp you don't want to be too close to all the desperate creepy crawlies running out of the swamp... Florida is a lot safer for avoiding assassination than in new York...

**oldrider** · 2nd November 2019, 20:02

Outcome of every situation is not always obvious as it might first appear:-

- https://twitter.com/i/status/1190471050775138304 - Impeachment anyone? -

**austingtir** · 2nd November 2019, 20:20

Kudos to the man who has scooped this story. Apparently he uncovered all this weeks ago.

His name is Greg Rubini.

https://twitter.com/GregRubini?ref_s...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

On October 18th, 2016 there was a 1pm luncheon honoring (then) Prime Minister of Italy... Matteo Renzi.

Here is a list of some attendees of that meal:

1. John Brennan
2. Susan Rice
3. Joe Biden
4. Nancy Pelosi
5. John Kerry
6. Loretta Lynch
7. John Podesta
8. Tony Podesta
9. Valerie Jarrett
10. James Clapper
11. James Comey
12. Charles Kupchan
13. Eric Ciaramella

So... you probably don't know who the 12th and 13th men are on this list even if you follow politics.

The thirteenth person is the "Whistleblower" that approached Adam Schiff. The 12th person is his boss. Anybody thats vaguely followed US politics will know who the first eleven are.

Rubini has also pointed out the connections via Ukraine which are all totally undeniable.

So the MSM is avoiding all this sort of stuff like the plague which is why those like sugilite on this forum are going to get hit by a ton of bricks once all the really juicy stuff comes out and the MSM cant control the narrative anymore.

For the people that are slow.

We have an ongoing and undeniable COUP attempt on a duly elected president of the USA and most people in the world are still clueless.

Cliffs: on Eric

-Started at CIA
-Registered Democrat held over on Trump Admin from Obama White House, was Ukraine director for Obama Admin
-Worked for Biden/Brennan and traveled with Biden to Ukraine - was Biden's Ukraine "point man"
-Ties to Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Schiff, Rice prior to whistleblowing
-Worked with Dems and Brennan to help the Russia Hoax - he was cited in the Muller Report
-Invited DNC anti-Trump Russia hoax operatives to the Trump White House
-Fired from Trump's White House in 2017 for leaking - then went back to working at the CIA (wtf?)
-Among others, was the "anonymous source" for false media narrative Putin ordered President Trump to fire James Comey (LOL!)
-After hearing from somebody else about Trump's Ukraine call, he met with Schiff's team (filled w/ past co-workers he's close with) for "guidance" weeks before officially whistleblowing
-He's how this whole impeachment process began

This whole thing is a massive joke. Never forget the lunacy on how this impeachment process started.

After being fired for leaking, how was this guy allowed back in the CIA? He needs to brought in for testimony ASAP. No wonder Democrats have been hiding him and using all their powers to shield this from Republicans.

https://www.realclearinvestigations....er_120996.html

**sugilite:Me** · 2nd November 2019, 23:53

Originally Posted by austingtir

For the people that are slow.

We have an ongoing and undeniable COUP attempt on a duly elected president of the USA and most people in the world are still clueless.

If that were true, it would have to be the worst coup attempt ever - when the republican run senate can swat it down in an instant.
You will pick up any old right wing dog turd narrative and run with it.

**austingtir** · 3rd November 2019, 00:20

Originally Posted by sugilite

If that were true, it would have to be the worst coup attempt ever - when the republican run senate can swat it down in an instant.
You will pick up any old right wing dog turd narrative and run with it.

It is true and you know it.

Whats right wing about stating obvious facts. All the stuff I posted above is verifiable fact.

Its an outright COUP attempt and has been since before Trump was president.

**sugilite:Me** · 3rd November 2019, 09:15

Originally Posted by austingtir

It is true and you know it.

Whats right wing about stating obvious facts. All the stuff I posted above is verifiable fact.

Its an outright COUP attempt and has been since before Trump was president.

"coup" - a sudden illegal, often violent, taking of government power, especially by part of an army:
To use the word coup in this instance is completely evocative and misleading. It is designed to rark up the lower IQ types. And look - you are absolutely frothing at the mouth like a rabid zombie!
Your boy gone done fucked up with this quid pro quo. If his phone call was so perfect, why move it to a secure server? Why try to block key witnesses if their is nothing to hide?
Trump was told under no uncertain terms by Kelly, that if he surrounded himself with "yes" men, he would open himself up to impeachment. And here it is coming to be.
Your guy is woefully under qualified for the office of the president - wakey wakey Austin.