The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[austingtir]

Quid pro OH NO!!




He says it himself. “If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.”


The prosecutor Biden demanded be fired was investigating Burisma – the energy company his son Hunter had an $83,000 a month job working for.


That is the very definition of quid pro quo. Demanding an action be taken in return for something else.


In this case, it was $1 billion in humanitarian aid would be released to Ukraine if and only if the prosecutor investigating Burisma was fired.




Joe Biden with held humanitarian aid for an investigator to be fired who was investigating the company his son worked for. That is the fact. It is not debunked. It is a fact.

[husaberg]

I see Santa also gave you no common sense again this year plus some more paranoia as well.

• Biden didn’t blackmail Ukraine. His demand that a prosecutor be fired was the will of the U.S. government and other Western leaders.
• There’s no evidence that Hunter Biden was under investigation at the time Biden made his request.
• Trump wasn’t simply "asking if it was true." He wanted a public announcement of an investigation of the Bidens to benefit himself. Aid to Ukraine was held up in the meantime.
Fighting corruption would not have required Trump to encourage Zelensky to work with Rudolph Giuliani, Trump’s personal lawyer, who has said that he was working in Ukraine to advance his client’s personal interests

What Biden did in Ukraine Biden in 2015 threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine if it didn’t fire prosecutor general Viktor Shokin. But there’s no evidence Biden did this to shield his son from scrutiny.
Kurt Volker, Trump’s envoy to Ukraine, has testified that Giuliani said that official Ukrainian statements against corruption were insufficient unless they specifically mentioned the investigations touching on the Bidens and on the 2016 campaign.
“So they made some genuine substantial changes institutionally and with people. But … there’s now some backsliding.” (Biden had boasted about this episode in an interview in Aug. 2016.)

“The United States and other Western nations had for months called for the ousting of Mr. Shokin, who was widely criticized for turning a blind eye to corrupt practice,” the New York Times reported at the time.

Steven Pifer is a career foreign service officer who was ambassador to Ukraine under President Bill Clinton and deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs under President George W. Bush. He told PolitiFact that “virtually everyone” he knew in the U.S. government “felt that Shokin was not doing his job and should be fired. As far as I can recall, they all concurred with the vice president telling Poroshenko that the U.S. government would not extend the $1 billion loan guarantee to Ukraine until Shokin was removed from office.”

[austingtir]

I suppose you can BS this away aswell.... GO! (Dance little monkey Dance!!!)




The democRATs are the corrupt END OF STORY!!! Of course the GOP isnt far behind them but atleast they arent this stupid about it.


You are just making yourself look even more stupid than you're already are viewed as.....

Not that im complaining of course. Keep going. Its going to be fun coming back to all this in the near future.

[austingtir]

And more on the FISC Judge....


https://theamericanreport.org/2019/1...=socialnetwork


"Senior U.S. District Judge Rosemary Collyer, Presiding Judge of the U.S. Foreign Surveillance Court, on April 26, 2017, ordered U.S. intelligence agencies to destroy evidence of illegal domestic surveillance collected on and before March 17, 2017, the exact date on which “The American Report” published the first full-length report revealing John Brennan and James Clapper’s use of “THE HAMMER” to wiretap Donald Trump.

Nearly two weeks earlier, on March 4, 2017, The American Report became the first and only media organization to connect President Trump’s March 4, 2017 tweet accusing President Obama of wiretapping Trump Tower to secretly-recorded audio from the Whistleblower Tapes revealing that Brennan and Clapper wiretapped Donald Trump."



So basically Trump claimed that Obama had wiretapped him and the next day this FISA judge ordered all Electronic monitoring by the HAMMER to be deleted...


What is an appropriate penalty for a judge to participate in the destruction of evidence proving the existence of illegal spying by an outgoing administration?

[husaberg]

I suppose you can BS this away aswell.... G

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You made accusations which is easily proven to be false you then just post more crap, same mo as Katman.
not only that you like trump and rudi keep changing the story

[pritch]

It seems that overnight our time the orange idiot fired off a series of desperate tweets then deleted them. Some people though save all of his 'words of wisdom' so they are recorded for posterity.

Of course it's completely legal for me to delete my tweets and completely illegal for the president to delete his. However nutty his utterances, they are required to be preserved for posterity. Just like Hillary's emails.

[pete376403]

I suppose you can BS this away aswell.... GO! (Dance little monkey Dance!!!)

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Here's the ad from hotpads.

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and on apartments.com
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[austingtir]

t's a RENTAL. $14k/mo rent.

Here's the ad from hotpads.

https://hotpads.com/3512-multiview-d...068-sq4s6y/pad


and on apartments.com
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OK then but that doesnt change the fact the Biden's are corrupt AF. Stuff like that still has to be investigated to figure out what these people do with their money.

Im surprised he has 14k per month left over after the all the hookers, blow and baby mumma costs.


And given the evidence in the Epstein episode any DEM getting what appears to be free mansions should be fully investigated. I would hardly take any realty webite as gospill even if it appears legit given Hunters history of blatantly obvious money laundering and corruption. Dems have been caught editing all kinds of shit on websites like that after the fact in past too to hide their dealings.


Once Biden is out of the presidential race its going to be all on!

[pritch]

I see yokel has been busy. I hope he's still not trying to predict the future, his predictions are almost as silly as QAnon's. Of course, there's probably a reason for that.

[austingtir]

I see yokel has been busy. I hope he's still not trying to predict the future, his predictions are almost as silly as QAnon's. Of course, there's probably a reason for that.

Atleast some of us are informed on whats coming and not necessarily by Qanon....

[oldrider]

What Israel wants Israel usually gets - especially so under Trump:- https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ans-its-allies - pretext "justification" and it'll be all go.

Pretext? - https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/...-Syria-attacks

[husaberg]

What Israel wants Israel usually gets - especially so under Trump:- https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ans-its-allies - pretext "justification" and it'll be all go.

Pretext? - https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2019/...-Syria-attacks

happy Hanukkah to you john, Can you pm me your address, so i can send you a small token of appreciation from the families of the NZ Auschwitz survivors.

[oldrider]

happy Hanukkah to you john, Can you pm me your address, so i can send you a small token of appreciation from the families of the NZ Auschwitz survivors.

You all ready have it - you sent it to Mossad remember?

[husaberg]

You all ready have it - you sent it to Mossad remember?

unless you are a terrorist or a nazi mossad wouldn't be bothered with you. Are you either?

[jasonu]

happy Hanukkah to you john, Can you pm me your address, so i can send you a small token of appreciation from the families of the NZ Auschwitz survivors.

Are you their officially appointed spokesman?