The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[austingtir]

And none of that addresses the question of why America is so heavily involved (both overtly and clandestinely) in the whole Middle East conflict.

Well obviously its oil and resources so the rich families around the world can go in there and extract and sell all that shit.


The problem I have with this argument of Israel not existing is where do you think these muslims are going to focus all of the anger once Israel is gone?
What if the entire muslim world was to amalgamate and concentrate their power under one banner? (its almost impossible for them to do this with Israel being where it is and given Israel's own military strength.)

I think it was an absolute master stoke by the brits (obviously with jewish influence) to go through with this plan and carve up the middle east. The Ottoman empire was once an actual thing!

How its been handled since then is debatable and im not for israel taking any more land but I like the fact they exist and that they are there to bare the brunt of islamist anger over the fact they exist.


I still think the world should be run by who has the most powerful military as thats how human interaction has been dictated since the practically the dawn of time.

The israeli's were very smart to get their hooks into the USA and britain and the USA and britain were very stupid to allow it to the extent it is today. But its a reciprocal relationship to a degree.

[Katman]

But its a reciprocal relationship to a degree.

In what way?

What exactly does Israel offer America (and to a far lesser degree, the UK) in return?

[austingtir]

In what way?

What exactly does Israel offer America (and to a far lesser degree, the UK) in return?

Its in what I just stated a military power similar to the former ottoman empire is highly unlikely to be formed with all the muslim factions split apart.


If israel did not exist. The USA and the UK could be facing THREE military superpowers right now instead of one and a half.

[TheDemonLord]

And none of that addresses the question of why America is so heavily involved (both overtly and clandestinely) in the whole Middle East conflict.

Because bloodshed in the Middle East doesn't stay confined to the Middle East.
Because Russia was quite happy to ply them with Weapons and Socialist Politics.
Because many of them are brutal dictators with a penchant for training Terrorist groups.

There's many many more that don't involve Israel.

[husaberg]

In what way?

What exactly does Israel offer America (and to a far lesser degree, the UK) in return?

Gee i wonder What does Russia get out of Syria, i wonder.............Seriously
How many friends do you think the US have in the middle east?
Why is it the world considers the middle east so important...........
Surely even you you can figure out why having a toe hold in the middle east and the history of how and by who Israel was formed might be a clue to the even mediocre minds.

[Katman]

There's many many more that don't involve Israel.

Are you familiar with the claim made by Theodor Herzl that God promised to the Jews all the land from the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates?

[TheDemonLord]

Are you familiar with the claim made by Theodor Herzl that God promised to the Jews all the land from the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates?

Many people have Many Gods who promise them Many things.

Some of them even bother to write it down.

Doesn't alter or change that everything in the middle east can be explained without Israel or God or the US.

[Katman]

Many people have Many Gods who promise them Many things.

Some of them even bother to write it down.

Doesn't alter or change that everything in the middle east can be explained without Israel or God or the US.

What if Theodor Herzl's claim is the foundation on which Zionism exists?

[sugilite:Me]

God you two are dense its a parody website FFS. No wonder you fall for all that real propaganda.

The CNN link should of given it away if the first one didnt.

https://babylonbee.com/news/mandalor...bounty-hunters

https://babylonbee.com/news

LMFAO

Just about everything you post is implausible conspiracy laced twaddle. Don't blame us for not putting in any effort to see if you are serious or not.

[TheDemonLord]

What if Theodor Herzl's claim is the foundation on which Zionism exists?

Does that somehow travel into the past and setup the Tribal differences, ethnic differences and religious differences that were the cause of about 6-700 years worth of conflict in the Middle East?

No?

Then whilst (if I'm being as charitable as I possibly can be) it might be A factor, it most definitely is not THE factor. Furtherconsidering the history, if it is A factor, then it is at best a minor one.

[austingtir]

Just about everything you post is implausible conspiracy laced twaddle. Don't blame us for not putting in any effort to see if you are serious or not.

I dont have to do anything to make the pair of you look silly you do that all on your own. Sometimes you even team up to double down on stupid.

[oldrider]

Thought it might be appropriate to post this here at this time FYI? (or not?)

c90adventures
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This is the video update for me riding through Iran, on my journey from Malaysia to the UK on my Honda C90.

This video may be long-winded but it needs to be to truely show just how awesome Iran is!

I'm so glad I went through there and not avoid it like the newspapers and government try to make you do.

Don't forget to go to www.c90adventures.co.uk for all my other video updates, pictures and spoof comedy videos.

Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo

[sugilite:Me]

I dont have to do anything to make the pair of you look silly you do that all on your own. Sometimes you even team up to double down on stupid.

Coming from a guy that thinks Trump is the man to drain the swamp, but no dems arrested for corruption in his 3 years to date - but half his 2016 campaign team are in jail

[Katman]

Does that somehow travel into the past and setup the Tribal differences, ethnic differences and religious differences that were the cause of about 6-700 years worth of conflict in the Middle East?

No?

Then whilst (if I'm being as charitable as I possibly can be) it might be A factor, it most definitely is not THE factor. Furtherconsidering the history, if it is A factor, then it is at best a minor one.

And I'll bring you back to the scale of conflict we're seeing these days.

I can think of half a dozen (with clearly more to come) countries that have been virtually destroyed through the conflict that has spanned only the last 20 or so years.

[Katman]

What about General Wesley Clark's claim that there was a plan to 'take out' seven countries within a five year period?

Was that plan due to tribal, ethnic and religious differences?