
Originally Posted by
sugilite
While I'm not a green voter, yes I place a lot of importance on protecting the environment. The Greens have failed, and so has Labor.
Which is good for me, but in many ways is a shame, I feel there are some good policies that could be generated by an environmentally focused party that wasn't a bunch of raving Marxists.

Originally Posted by
sugilite
I did not know that. I agree, that is bloody vindictive and bullying. Disgraceful.
Yep, It's things like that which IMO betray their real intentions, and it was never about making NZ safer. I'll happily admit that it's conjecture on my part.

Originally Posted by
sugilite
Team Hitler, his brand is pretty well known?
Indeed, certain groups are almost pathological about reminding us of them, like the Church loves to remind us about the Devil, one wonders if there might be an ulterior motive...

Originally Posted by
sugilite
OK, STOP right there, I'm not letting you get away with that tripe. Trump has fired many a good person for no other reason than having uncomfortable facts to share with him that do not align with his "uninformed wing it" ways. No lock step = no job. Sure, some needed to go, but many did not. He just needed to put aside his ego and listen.
So, Off-hand, the only one that I can think of where I disagree would be General Matthis - however the rest, there's something interesting in there - I'm going to take a small tangent across the Pond to reference Pritti Patel vs the Home Office - Namely that in the case where the Civil Servant cannot work with the Elected official, the convention is that the Civil Servant seeks to be re-assigned. I bring this up because there's an importantly principle here:
Civil Servants are not accountable to the Electorate. The President is.
They may not like how he does things, they may advise, disagree, protest etc. but at the end of the day, they have 2 options: 1 Carry out the will of the electorate (manifested by the Democratically elected representative) or 2: Fuck off.
And where they fail to do either, Trump has no option BUT to fire them.

Originally Posted by
sugilite
Yes, Trump does have genuine love for the USA. It has provided him a wonderful system that lets the wealthy flout and circumnavigate laws that are largely "for the little people". What is not to love for a man such as Trump.
Regardless of the reason (namely - I don't entirely agree with the premise, I think his love of the USA is deeper than that, but hey) - His patriotism IS a key factor - the only person I can think of from the Democrat front runners who I'd consider to be truly patriotic would be Tulsi - and the proof of this was by how the Democratic party shafted her.

Originally Posted by
sugilite
I'm very grateful that you are not in any position to have any sort of influence on how this virus is to be dealt with
I think you misunderstand my position here. My critique is that certain groups (who might seek to profit from running 24hr coverage about our impending doom) have hyped this epidemic massively, this in-turn has resulted in what will likely be severe economic consequences that IMO are caused more from the hysteria about the Virus than the impact of the Virus itself.
I'm quite happy with precautionary measures such as shutting the Borders etc. However I think that there has been a definitive over-reaction, that will have long-term consequences.

Originally Posted by
sugilite
You are surely kidding are you not? You are seriously giving weight to stats being released by the same mob that is saying the US military are the ones that spread the virus? You sure seem to cherry pick the stats from where ever - when it suits your position.
It's more about what would they gain from lying about that Stat?
It's also not outside the realms of possibility if you consider the people in the initial spread of the virus who contract it are likely also those with weaker immune systems or suffering from pre-existing conditions and so are also the ones most likely to die from it. So an initially high fatality rate (around 3-4% in places) slowly settles down to an overall fatality rate of around 1%.
Again, to be clear - people dying is not good, nor am I trying to make light of it.
Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress
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