The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Bonez]

There is no contradiction, although it does appear there is a comprehension problem. There is a difference between voter fraud and electoral fraud.

This deserves to be in someones sig.

[pritch]

Ah I see, so it's only a problem when the side you don't like does it or when it doesn't work in your favour - got it.

OK so you've reverted to complete nonsense again.

And when were those Questionnaires last used? Circa 1950 I believe?

That's why the word "history" was included. The same people that used to do that are now using IDs to suppress votes.

I suspect if we look closer at the example, we'll find that one is a Photo ID issued directly by the State and the other is not.

I suspect not. You managed to conclude that the state welfare ID is not issued by the state?

As for Voter ID - I carry 2 forms of Government issued Photo ID on myself at all times (unless I've forgotten my Wallet), so if I can do it, why can't everyone else do it? It's not exactly difficult to obtain a Government ID.

Yes, I also generally have two government forms of ID but I don't live in the USA.

In the USA it's one thing for a white person to obtain ID, it's an entirely different thing if you happen to be poor or black. Prior to the last election many DMV offices in predominantly black areas were closed. It's possible to be white and live in the USA with no clue as to what's actually happening for other people.

So, were all these Vote Suppression, Gerrymandering and Electoral Fraud practices going on when Obama was elected? How come they didn't work then but did for Trump and Bush?

Yes, but the voter turnout was huge. A huge turnout will beat the gerrymandering.

The Democrats want a huge turnout this time, Trump wants the opposite and he is working to achieve that.

I'm not qualified to explain this stuff to you, I have no special needs training. Back on ignore you go.

[Bonez]

OK so you've reverted to complete nonsense again.

Oh the irony.....

[Bonez]

I'm not qualified to explain this stuff to you, I have no special needs training. Back on ignore you go.

No body really cares pritch. You peak anyway. You have no training on anything significant judging from your postings over the last eight months.

[Viking01]

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...are-just-after

[husaberg]

Not much has changed.


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Trump is starting to make George W. Bush look like Stephen Hawking.

Trump supporters are still the same as well.

[TheDemonLord]

OK so you've reverted to complete nonsense again.

Just demonstrating a Hypocrisy on your part.

That's why the word "history" was included. The same people that used to do that are now using IDs to suppress votes.

The same people?!? The people that wrote those laws are DEAD. Why are you bringing up what happened 70 years ago as if it has some bearing on what is happening now? Especially it was you, yourself that claimed 'Recent years' - Moving the Goalposts much?

I suspect not. You managed to conclude that the state welfare ID is not issued by the state?

Did you miss the word 'Photo'?

Yes, I also generally have two government forms of ID but I don't live in the USA.

In the USA it's one thing for a white person to obtain ID, it's an entirely different thing if you happen to be poor or black. Prior to the last election many DMV offices in predominantly black areas were closed. It's possible to be white and live in the USA with no clue as to what's actually happening for other people.

So, you can do it, I can do it - but those poor black people, somehow, they are incapable of doing it... This is called the Bigotry of low-expectations.

Yes, but the voter turnout was huge. A huge turnout will beat the gerrymandering.

The Democrats want a huge turnout this time, Trump wants the opposite and he is working to achieve that.

You got a source for that? Considering that it was only the African American demographic that had a significant change in voter turnout between Obama and Trump,

I'm not qualified to explain this stuff to you, I have no special needs training. Back on ignore you go.

That's it...

Run away with your tail between your legs when you reach the limits of trying to peddle your bullshit.

[mashman]

They're not out to get you, unless they're out to get you and get caught doing it. Dem chickens, Dem chickens, Dem chickens comin' home to roost.

[jasonu]

I'm not qualified to explain this stuff to you, .

1st thing you have got right in forever.

[Bonez]

That's it...

Run away with your tail between your legs when you reach the limits of trying to peddle your bullshit.

He did that the first week I was back on KB Nov last year lol. pritch can not handle opinions of others. Especially if those opinions have links and facts to back them up. He also obviously doesn't realise that you can ignore posters without even announcing you are putting them on ignore nor. Works a treat I've found.

Off to make a cheese and onion toasty pie for Connie.........

[Viking01]

https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aj...ote/index.html

[Bonez]

https://interactive.aljazeera.com/aj...ote/index.html

Where? All I see is links to ancient history We are still waiting for Shift to show his evidence "in plain view" he was blabbering about for months.

[pete376403]

Where? All I see is links to ancient history We are still waiting for Shift to show his evidence "in plain view" he was blabbering about for months.

2013 is "ancient history"? Did you read the whole thing? CAN you read the whole thing?

[husaberg]

[husaberg]

Nuking hurricanes
civil war airfields
The invisible jets
the washed coal so it was clean...........
big water ocean water and it wet
noise from windmills causes Cancer
putting disinfectant in your body to cure covid

missing
whats happened last night in Sweden
The sharpie hurricane addition.
Paris is no longer Paris
his father was an immigrant
raking the forests "floor" like finland to prevent fires
the "Oranges" of the Muller investigation