Well this comes down to a matter of perspective - does replacing or repairing existing sections of wall count as work done? 275 vs 6 quoted by Pritch - it seems that there is a rather large degree of shall we say 'interpretation' based on whichever side of the Fence (hehe) you fall on.Originally Posted by sugilite
In regards to the Saw - I think that's a bit of a red herring - any security system (IT, Physical etc.) is always going to be breached by someone sufficiently dedicated, skilled and with enough time. It's about deterring the majority and making it sufficiently time-consuming that the attempt can be interdicted.
But we don't know the context of the Conversation, given the Media's rather 'judicious' editing of clips, I hold no weight to it - and I'll give an example - I've spoken about my family members like that when they have deserved it and I've been spoken about like that myself when I've been an asshat - doesn't mean that this is what I or my Family members think about each other on the whole.
I didn't specifically mean Jealousy when I said rivalry, but whilst a Federal Judge is noteworthy, it's not the PotUS is it....
I wasn't, I was referring to Antifa, BLM etc. who explicitly state that they want to tear down the western capitalist patriarchal structures (which is the US), and since you mentioned the Squad - they entirely support the likes of BLM. To answer the question of Quotes.
When BLM are advocating for expropriation and left-wing news outlets are not merely condoning it but actually justifying it In Defense of Destroying Property and the likes of AOC cannot bring themselves to publicly denounce it, that's all the quote I need. Anyone who doesn't immediately say 'No, Expropriation is wrong' is already damned in my eyes.
The foundation of America is individual liberalism "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness", anyone who does not uphold that core value is opposed to the very essence of what America is, and by failing to take a definitive stance against Rioting, destruction of property, Murder etc. whilst supporting organisations that explicitly state they want to tear everything that America is down - yeah, I take that hatred for America.
From the get-go everything about the Russian interference screamed 'sore loser syndrome' and the biggest smoking gun for me was the lack of a smoking gun, despite repeated claims by CNN and their Ilk that "This time, we have what will be the final nail in this presidency" - I'm happy to admit that at this point they've cried Wolf so many times that I'm forgoing the usual skeptic burden of proof and dismissing every sensationalist claim from the outset.
Should a sufficiently sound piece of evidence be presented, I'll entertain it, but thus far, nothing even remotely close has been forthcoming.
Chalk that one up to a 'free pass for Trump' if you like - the great irony being a lot of the Commentators who I listen to, who are either Conservative or Traditional British liberal types or even disenfranchised former Democrat voters have plenty of criticism of Trump - ranging from the fact that he essentially talks a lot of Shit, to the fact he Tweets too much, doesn't act very statesmanlike etc. Even to his nepotistic appointments (something I'm not particularly fond of) - there is plenty to critique Trump fairly for, with solid evidence - If the Media dialed it back and maybe even said a nice thing or two about him when he does something good (as opposed to flip-out, like when he Pardoned Susan B Anthony and then life-long admirers were suddenly trying to paint her as a villain because Trump pardoned her) then people like me might have our faith restored a little - but if they haven't figured that out by now, they are too far gone.
Okay, I'm going to take this comment in 2 parts:
Firstly - Let's both assume our equal distrust of politicians and that we both expect that any politician will fail to live up to the promises made and that we will be equally disappointed with the result - That's still a policy set, even if partially/half-arsedly implemented that I think we could both agree isn't too bad, whereas compared to other parties there are Policy items that I am vehemently against. What I'm getting at here is based on Policy alone, someone like you could vote for a candidate that espoused those Policies.
Next part is the Right Wing Violent groups: Which ones? I'm being very serious here - where are they? Are they taking over sections of Cities and burning them to the ground? Are they forcing Mayors to remove funding for the Police? Are they getting major corporate backing and virtue signalling? Are they thriving in the Universities and actively pushing students via certain BS courses into right-wing Extremism? Are they getting mainstream TV Coverage that runs interference for them? Are they being promoted by Mainstream Politicians, Sporting figures etc?
Literally, where are they?
Now, we both know that they do exist, and I'd even be willing to be that in a few years time you will see a surge in right-wing extremism as the current generation gets radicalized by the antics of BLM and ANTIFA.
To be clear, I'm not a fan of Right-wing extremism at all - The only form of Extremism I like is in my Metal Music - but the simple fact is that when we do a simple comparison of the last major 'right wing extremist' incident (Charlottesville) vs all the Death and destruction at the hands of Antifa and BLM in the same time period - it's a completely different scale.
This is where we get into the murky areas of Economic Theory - my personal view is that deregulation and tax cuts will always stimulate the economy, leading to lower unemployment and more growth, however the counter-point is also true that the Rich do get Richer, but it hides the other fact - the Poor get richer too, but at a slower rate. This is the cause of the increase in income disparity often associated with 'trickle-down' economics however this is best described thusly:
If inflation is 2% PA and the Rich person's income increases at 20% PA and the Poor person's income has only increased at 4% PA - Is this fair?
One might argue that the disparity is unfair, however the Poor person is still better off, their income has increased even when factored for Inflation. Whereas all the Jealous Marxist types only see the Rich getting richer and want to help themselves to some of that $$$.
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