The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Katman]

Yes, those are objective statements based on the evidence of your posts.

So is post #1285.

[Banditbandit]

Yes, those are objective statements based on the evidence of your posts.

There re no such things as 'objective statements'. Everything, and I mean everything, is said from some ideological position ...

It's just that some ideologies rely on making "objective statements" as a way to back up those statements, as it were. Claiming objectivity is one move in the argument, but it is never a valid one.

[Banditbandit]

Now someone is going to come along and say that "The sky is blue" is an objective statement.

But I would say the sky is Kahurangi, as it is only 'blue' within the English-speaking world, with all its worldviews and positions.

And I would ask you what power you are trying to exercise by making that statement, thereby drawing out your lack of objectivity.

[TheDemonLord]

There re no such things as 'objective statements'. Everything, and I mean everything, is said from some ideological position ...

It's just that some ideologies rely on making "objective statements" as a way to back up those statements, as it were. Claiming objectivity is one move in the argument, but it is never a valid one.

Whilst I'll acknowledge the partial truth of what you say, there comes a point at which any ideological subjectivity is so minuscule that it is rendered moot. Where that point is, I'm sure you and I could argue that till the Cows come home to roost.

I'd start with something like A is the first letter of the english alphabet. Sure there is some subjectivity, but it is miniscule

[TheDemonLord]

So is post #1285.

No, it's just the ramblings of a delusional zealot who can't face reality.

[mashman]

Your "beliefs" are so far divorced from reality that nobody would be surprised if you denied even that obvious fact.

Doesn't stop you spouting unsubstantiated crap every chance you get though.

See if you can find out how much Mark made out of tax rorts associated with this obviously dodgy deal: http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/84...to-end-disease

Oh, ouch, that one really stung... oh wait on, actually that was just wind. @reality.

Yup, I've never heard anyone pledge a small fortune to help end disease etc... before. I'm sure his money will work though.

[mashman]

Now someone is going to come along and say that "The sky is blue" is an objective statement.

But I would say the sky is Kahurangi, as it is only 'blue' within the English-speaking world, with all its worldviews and positions.

And I would ask you what power you are trying to exercise by making that statement, thereby drawing out your lack of objectivity.

Wass da Maori werd for translucent

[yokel]

Now someone is going to come along and say that "The sky is blue" is an objective statement.

But I would say the sky is Kahurangi, as it is only 'blue' within the English-speaking world, with all its worldviews and positions.

And I would ask you what power you are trying to exercise by making that statement, thereby drawing out your lack of objectivity.

What a load of fucking gibberish.

[Brian d marge]

Now someone is going to come along and say that "The sky is blue" is an objective statement.

But I would say the sky is Kahurangi, as it is only 'blue' within the English-speaking world, with all its worldviews and positions.

And I would ask you what power you are trying to exercise by making that statement, thereby drawing out your lack of objectivity.

the word blue is relatively new , the romans called the sky " bronze"

of top of head

[yokel]

Saying the sky is blue is sexist and not a fair generalisation.
As the sky can be all the colours of the rainbow.

[bogan]

And the answer (as always) is no, you're full of shit as usual.

Oh and called it:

Yeh, but I called that already, so get in line cunt...

[Ocean1]

Now someone is going to come along and say that "The sky is blue" is an objective statement.

But I would say the sky is Kahurangi, as it is only 'blue' within the English-speaking world, with all its worldviews and positions.

And I would ask you what power you are trying to exercise by making that statement, thereby drawing out your lack of objectivity.

You do talk some shite, y'know.

[Ocean1]

Yup, I've never heard anyone pledge a small fortune to help end disease etc... before. I'm sure his money will work though.

That's cause you're ignorant.

And because you're ignorant you also won't know that his money will work infinitely better than whatever you've ever contributed.

[mashman]

That's cause you're ignorant.

And because you're ignorant you also won't know that his money will work infinitely better than whatever you've ever contributed.

Oh noes, more stingz, boohoo, boohoo.

[yokel]

Pep's on internet forum redit get the dirt on Hillary.



Crooked Hillary, even her eyes are crooked.
I've seen this before while she's having her seizures.