The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[YellowDog]

We seem to have more than our fair share of dumb no nothng morons, in Auckland, exercising their democratic right to protest in line with CNN's misrepresentations

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11746979

[oldrider]

Donald Trump Wins US Presidency: A Blow to the Global Establishment…or Its Latest Iteration? - Ah someone else who shares my concern about Trump!

Trump's overly heavy sucking up to Israel and his forcefully expressed attitude regarding Iran are deeply worrying -

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are but two sides of the same coin on that subject! (or so it would appear!)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/donald-...lated_articles - By the time it becomes clear to the world - will it be too late? .....

Then there is this Donald Trump - compared to this Hillary Clinton can you spot the difference now? -

The destruction of Syria was supposed to be over long ago so that Iran would be totally destabilised and well on the way to destruction by now - Clinton failed!

The Clinton administration was was fired! - watch how quickly Trump gets on with the business in Iran!

[jasonu]

Only an immature moron would be rioting in the streets braking windows and shit.

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Yep it is real 3rd world country behavior.

[jasonu]

Political commentators in the US suggesting Trump will be impeached by his own party before too long,

Are these the same political commentators that got the whole election so very wrong?

[jasonu]

We seem to have more than our fair share of dumb no nothng morons, in Auckland, exercising their democratic right to protest in line with CNN's misrepresentations

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11746979

What a bunch of fuckwits. Likely the same ones that did that occupy crap. Sheep!!!!!

[sidecar bob]

Are these the same political commentators that got the whole election so very wrong?

Or the same ones that said Bill Clinton would be impeached within 12 months?
I remember that clearly, because it was the first time I'd heard the word used.

[pritch]

It's going to be interesting to see how trump deals with all of his potential conflicts of interest. His comments so far indicate he doesn't understand the size of the problem. Most Presidents place their business affairs in a blind trust. Trump said his kids could run the business, and that raised eyebrows. Now that he has appointed his kids and son in law to his transition team that would seem to eliminate them as candidates to run the business.

What sort of conflicts of interest? Deutchbank have been fined 14 million dollars for their contribution to the GFC. Trump owes the same bank millions.
Be interesting to see how that works out. Michael Moore, who apparently correctly predicted a Trump win, also predicts he won't last four years.

[Grumph]

Someone should start a poll on 1, how long he'll last, 2, impeach (sub headings as to reason) or assassination (sub headings again as to method)

There is another way...He's looking a bit shell shocked already, what's the odds on him stepping down ? Republicans would love Pense as prez and the house speaker as Vice.

[pritch]

Interesting. The professor who forecast a Trump victory also predicts he won't last the four years. That's both he and Michael Moore, who against the trends perdicted a Trump win, now predicting an early departure.

Trump's history of dodgy money grabbing could get him in trouble if the leopard can't instantly change its spots. He is also a target for the people in his own party who would rather he was gone and they had to deal with Pense who is one of them, not an outsider maverick like Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...t-draw8&wpmm=1

[YellowDog]

Interesting. The professor who forecast a Trump victory also predicts he won't last the four years. That's both he and Michael Moore, who against the trends perdicted a Trump win, now predicting an early departure.

Trump's history of dodgy money grabbing could get him in trouble if the leopard can't instantly change its spots. He is also a target for the people in his own party who would rather he was gone and they had to deal with Pense who is one of them, not an outsider maverick like Trump.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...t-draw8&wpmm=1

There are far too many conflicts of interest and he already has around 1000 ongoing legal battle through the US court system.

Unless he can pass it all off to be managed and drop his CEO role at Trump Enterprises, he'll have to be a part-time President, which can't really work

[jasonu]

Republicans would love Pense as prez and the house speaker as Vice.

That result would still be WAY better than if the old shrew had won.

[nerrrd]

The guy is already back-pedalling as fast as his fancy leather shoes will take him, he's an even bigger symptom of what's wrong with the system than bloody Hillary.

Hopefully this in your face farce will prompt some actual change down the line but I wouldn't bet on it.

[seattle smitty]

Well, count me as one who was surprised. Not disappointed; the choice was a disappointment already, to put it mildly. Now I'm wondering how we can ever top this election for amusement value in four or eight years. Bernie Madoff vs. Bozo the Clown? And any future debates should be moderated by a game-show host.

All professional political analysts and op-ed writers and talking heads are forever remarking on the fact that few voters have a deep grasp of the issues. Those people spend their days reading up on the issues for their jobs. The rest of us do not have such jobs. The point of a republic as opposed to a direct democracy is that you vote for an individual whose political philosophy seems similar to yours, hoping that he will master the details.

Trump got elected in a wave of sentiment for a return to nationalism and away from globalism.

[IkieBikie]

Trump got elected in a wave of sentiment for a return to nationalism and away from globalism.

Dead right there. Same may happen here yet??

[Hemi Makutu]

Dead right there. Same may happen here yet??

Yeah, it did already, 40 years ago when Rob Muldoon got the gig..

The Reaganite/Thatcherite/Rogernomics/neocons have been running the place (down the drain) since, mind you..