The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Brian d marge]

Caller "Craig" to talkback just after 12 noon..."Trump is an inherently honest person"

Host bursts into laughter....He's just spent some time detailing most of what's been discussed here listing the ways Trump has been dishonest....

Yokel, were you "Craig" ?

Actually, I heard a "rumour" that the joke in the rich fks community.. is Trump is THE most honest billionaire, as he made hiss money building sht ( no.. Bill Gates foistered that abomination called windows on humanity, the evil fker)

Doesn't say much about the rest does it ...

sent for a divine source

[Grumph]

The man's a raving nutbar...While the hearings with the FBI and NSA directors are on, Trump tweets that they've exonerated him...

The Democrats read it back to the two Directors as it's seen - and they categorically deny they've either exonerated him or found evidence of guilt - yet...

US commentators doubt he has the balls to fire the FBI director....

[pritch]

Caller "Craig" to talkback just after 12 noon..."Trump is an inherently honest person"

That's why I don't listen to talkback, too many deluded fuckwits. It's depressing.

Trump was tweeting lies again this morning, on the official @POTUS account no less, during the congressional hearing. Got called on a lie about the hearing, in the hearing, while it was still in progress. Another first for the age of the Internet? (This as per Grumph's post above.)

Ocean's point about immigrant workers is interesting. Most of the manual labour in the primary production areas of the USA is done by Mexicans, illegal or otherwise. (So incidentally, is the work in Trump's hotels and clubs.) If they boot significant numbers of the Mexicans out they'll have to pay more for fruit and vegetables, or alternatively crops will fail to be harvested. Either way prices will go up, and/or there will be shortages. Americans have already been advised to grow their own vegetables by way of insurance. Tough if you live in a New York apartment I guess.

[Ocean1]

Ocean's point about immigrant workers is interesting. Most of the manual labour in the primary production areas of the USA is done by Mexicans, illegal or otherwise. (So incidentally, is the work in Trump's hotels and clubs.) If they boot significant numbers of the Mexicans out they'll have to pay more for fruit and vegetables, or alternatively crops will fail to be harvested. Either way prices will go up, and/or there will be shortages.

It's simply amazing the number of people that can't or won't see a link between wages and prices. Making the first bigger and the second smaller is the premise most governments are elected on, and then everyone gets all shocked and mortified when the election promises never quite get delivered on.

Inventing a complete new pretend universe where those promises are actually delivered on is a new spin, though...

[jasonu]

[QUOTE=Stylo;1131035800]

How much is it costing to transport the orange buffoon to his hideaway in Florida every weekend ?

Probably a shit load less than sending the last guy, his ugly wife and 2 kids to Hawaii every couple of months.

[husaberg]

No, the if is very much the be all and end all - even with a leg-up, it is still very easy to make a bad business investment and go broke - for example - former NBA, Baseball stars etc. in the US - earned Millions, made some bad investments - now broke.

Give him time, we still haven't see his tax returns yet.
https://www.thetoptens.com/most-racist-countries/

The most Racist country in the world? Not been to the UAE then? or India? or China? or South Africa?

This is not to say the US doesn't have racists in it, but the most racist country in the world? get off the grass!

https://www.thetoptens.com/most-racist-countries/
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/ana...0320-0019.html
I went looking and found a link that suited me
India is generarly rated the highest though.

[Brian d marge]

https://youtu.be/xxaWCb9U9iQ

Twas like this back in the day ,

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[TheDemonLord]

Give him time, we still haven't see his tax returns yet.
https://www.thetoptens.com/most-racist-countries/

You are seriously going to try and claim that as a valid source when it's a vote with ZERO objective evidence to back it up?

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/ana...0320-0019.html
I went looking and found a link that suited me
India is generarly rated the highest though.

The second one from it's notes:

The list is in no order of more to less, given that various researchers and indexes have failed to agree.

So, it's a BS list.

In fact - lets read it's reasoning for placing it there:

Police in particular are renowned for their discrimination, killing Black people with little repercussions.

Lolwut.

They make it sound like a bad day in Sarajevo - I don't think the Author quite understands what Police killing without repercussions actually looks like - Fortunately we have real world happening right now in the Philipines.... And it looks nothing like what happens in the US (I guess the author has missed the Media Fanfares, even when the suspect was armed...).

On the border with Mexico, security forces have also murdered hundreds of Mexican migrants and refugees with impunity.

And again - not quite an accurate response - lets fix it:

On the border with Mexico, security forces have used justifiable force against hundreds of Mexican illegal migrants trying to enter the US illegally.

And I love this line:

The most recent FBI report suggests over 7,000 people were impacted by hate crimes nationwide in 2013. The agency says the majority of reported hate crimes were motivated by race.

7,000 people - out of a population of 325 Million.

Thats an incidence of 0.002%

And they are trying to claim it's the most racist country...

Get off the Grass!

[husaberg]

You are seriously going to try and claim that as a valid source when it's a vote with ZERO objective evidence to back it up?




The second one from it's notes:



So, it's a BS list.

In fact - lets read it's reasoning for placing it there:



Lolwut.

They make it sound like a bad day in Sarajevo - I don't think the Author quite understands what Police killing without repercussions actually looks like - Fortunately we have real world happening right now in the Philipines.... And it looks nothing like what happens in the US (I guess the author has missed the Media Fanfares, even when the suspect was armed...).



And again - not quite an accurate response - lets fix it:



And I love this line:



7,000 people - out of a population of 325 Million.

Thats an incidence of 0.002%

And they are trying to claim it's the most racist country...

Get off the Grass!

Do you not like my links
They suited me, so i used them, don't be so mean.
since when does data really have to be real and stand up to scutiny.
Its just Alternative DataTM trump

[Grumph]

Probably a shit load less than sending the last guy, his ugly wife and 2 kids to Hawaii every couple of months.

Nope - as i've said before he's cost more in the short time he's been in office than Obama cost you last year.

Can't post a link - but the figures were posted on another forum by a couple of yanks who were no friends of Obama.
I'm sure you could find them if you don't believe...

[Brian d marge]

Hold on on Trump
There is something going on
Watch Trump in this vid. Watch hitlary and who also is in the crowd , very important
https://youtu.be/p7rzZCJ-rJE
Secondly
Donald Trump Accuses Ted Cruz's Father of Associating With Kennedy Assassin - First Draft. Political News, Now. - The New York Times
And
Trump Attacks Jeb Bush Over 9/11 | Ken Walsh's Washington | US News
Both Cruz and bush drop out a few days after
There is something very interesting going on with the boys
Remember pence is Vatican 2. As well as the team surrounding Trump ,.
First 100 day people first 100 days
Forget the corporate media which are shills for the agenda

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[husaberg]

[QUOTE=jasonu;1131035940]

Probably a shit load less than sending the last guy, his ugly wife and 2 kids to Hawaii every couple of months.

Nope - as i've said before he's cost more in the short time he's been in office than Obama cost you last year.

Can't post a link - but the figures were posted on another forum by a couple of yanks who were no friends of Obama.
I'm sure you could find them if you don't believe...

http://elitedaily.com/news/politics/...obama/1795815/
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...ost-mar-a-lago

According to the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch, Obama’s travel costs during his eight years in office totaled about $97 million. If Trump maintains his current pace, he’ll outspend Obama in less than one year

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/trum...el-than-obama/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7586261.html

[Brian d marge]

And secondly , ya cant QE without inflation, so where is that money, off shore, black Budget? It has to create inflation IF it enters the system
Asset purchase? ........

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[husaberg]

Caller "Craig" to talkback just after 12 noon..."Trump is an inherently honest person"

Host bursts into laughter....He's just spent some time detailing most of what's been discussed here listing the ways Trump has been dishonest....

Yokel, were you "Craig" ?

http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/...cid=spartanntp

James B. Comey — the FBI director whom Trump celebrated on the campaign trail as a gutsy and honorable “Crooked Hillary” truth-teller — testified under oath Monday what many Americans had already assumed: Trump had falsely accused his predecessor of wiretapping his headquarters during last year’s campaign.

Trump did not merely allege that former president Barack Obama ordered surveillance on Trump Tower, of course. He asserted it as fact, and then reasserted it, and then insisted that forthcoming evidence would prove him right.
But in Monday’s remarkable, marathon hearing of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Comey said there was no such evidence. Trump’s claim, first made in a series of tweets on March 4 at a moment when associates said he was feeling under siege and stewing over the struggles of his young presidency, remains unfounded.

Comey did not stop there. He confirmed publicly that the FBI was investigating possible collusion between Trump campaign officials and associates with Russia, part of an extraordinary effort by an adversary to influence the outcome of the 2016 U.S. election in Trump’s favor.
Questions about Russia have hung over Trump for months, but the president always has dismissed them as “fake news.” That became much harder Monday after the FBI director proclaimed the Russia probe to be anything but fake.
“There’s a smell of treason in the air,” presidential historian Douglas Brinkley said. “Imagine if J. Edgar Hoover or any other FBI director would have testified against a sitting president? It would have been a mind-boggling event.”
For Trump, Comey’s testimony punctuates what has been a troubling first two months as president. His approval ratings, which were historically low at his inauguration, have fallen even further. Gallup’s tracking poll as of Sunday showed that just 39 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s job performance, with 55 percent disapproving.

[Grumph]

Rachel Maddow (MSNBC) has an amusing story about Trump and golf. Before taking office he whined about Obama golfing and said he'd be in the White House working his ass off for the people. He's been on the course 11 times in the 8 weeks in office so far.
But he and his staff are becoming sensitive about it and won't confirm whether he's played or not - despite pics posted by his staff confirming it...
They're actually now trying to hide the golfing time.

This just gets better and better.