The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

**Bonez** · 16th December 2019, 18:48

Originally Posted by husaberg

One US dollar is worth 62 Russian Rubles.

And 1.52 NZ$ A drop of 0.04% since last month.

**Bonez** · 16th December 2019, 19:03

Originally Posted by pritch

My impression was that he was trying to chase the Jewish vote but a lot of Jewish Americans were very uneasy about being made a different nationality. They'd been there before. About 1936.

The Jexit movement seems to be doing ok. Wiyh the Dems coming across as anti jewish and anti Israel. Dual citizens like Shift are making an arse of themselves.

**pritch** · 16th December 2019, 20:50

Apparently five members of Van Drew’s staff are quitting because of him changing party. That’s pretty staunch, joining the unemployed on a matter of principle.

**husaberg** · 16th December 2019, 21:04

Even Boris was laughing his arse off at Trump

**Banditbandit** · 17th December 2019, 10:49

Originally Posted by mashman

I reckon Trump was approached to run.

Trump did not expect to win, insiders say. It was a joke, a laugh for him - then he won .. joke's on the USA.

Now we have this ..

Given the Nixon scenario (Nixon resigned, remember, in the face of overwhelming evidence that meant he would have been impeached) Trump supporters say none of it is impeachable ..

A deep level of stupidity

**onearmedbandit** · 17th December 2019, 11:05

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Trump did not expect to win, insiders say. It was a joke, a laugh for him - then he won .. joke's on the USA.

Now we have this ..

Given the Nixon scenario (Nixon resigned, remember, in the face of overwhelming evidence that meant he would have been impeached) Trump supporters say none of it is impeachable ..

A deep level of stupidity

I think you'll find that goes both ways lol. And for the record I trust no politicians and have no interest in this 'debate' with the exception of observing the justifications each side has as to why their beliefs are the only right ones.

These examples and yours above perfectly illustrate how the general public have very little idea and that politics at their level is simply a popularity contest.

**pritch** · 17th December 2019, 16:05

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

These examples and yours above perfectly illustrate how the general public have very little idea and that politics at their level is simply a popularity contest.

That's one way of summing up the nature of the problem. The qualities required to win the candidacy, then the election, bear no relevance to the qualities required to be a president.

Getting elected is in the nature of a popularity contest, the presidency is more like being a chairman of the board. In the US, of course, the chairman gets to select his board. Hopefully the person who wins the presidency is a quick learner.

**husaberg** · 17th December 2019, 16:18

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

These examples and yours above perfectly illustrate how the general public have very little idea and that politics at their level is simply a popularity contest.

I think that more reflects how lacking in basic intelligence the average US voter is.

**pritch** · 17th December 2019, 19:31

Originally Posted by husaberg

I think that more reflects how lacking in basic intelligence the average US voter is.

To be fair the British voters are looking rather dim at the moment too. Although some people do think there is a common denominator.

There would also seem to be some hereabout who think the Kiwi voters fucked up too, but they'd need to come up with a different explanation.

**Katman** · 17th December 2019, 19:48

Originally Posted by husaberk

I think that more reflects how lacking in basic intelligence the average US voter is.

And yet, compared to some on here they appear absolutely genius.

**husaberg** · 17th December 2019, 20:02

Originally Posted by Katman

And yet, compared to some on here they appear absolutely genius.

I remember when somone on here was pushing a genius idea that a former mental patients "free energy engine" that was supposed to run on coffe grounds and other waste, thery made out he was a genius.

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/s...ernative-fuels

Originally Posted by pritch

To be fair the British voters are looking rather dim at the moment too. Although some people do think there is a common denominator.

There would also seem to be some hereabout who think the Kiwi voters fucked up too, but they'd need to come up with a different explanation.

Luckily our ones are faily bland and vanilla, MMP does that, of the current big two, one is slightly left, one slightly right, nothing really radical.
The most right wing government of the last 50 years was actually labour 84 imo