The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

**Katman** · 8th December 2017, 14:25

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Oh well, believe it or not - I'm interested in your opinions (yes I was shocked) on this whole fuckin mess and where its going to go...

Israel wants it to go from the Nile to the Euphrates.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/greate...e-east/5324815

**oldrider** · 8th December 2017, 14:46

Our extreme best efforts would register no change what so ever so the best thing we can do is remain unemotional refrain from seeking blame or retribution and continue to seek the truth. - Whatever it is?

**Paul in NZ** · 8th December 2017, 14:53

Originally Posted by Katman

Israel wants it to go from the Nile to the Euphrates.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/greate...e-east/5324815

The Saudis might not be too happy about that...

**Viking01** · 8th December 2017, 15:10

Article from Juan Cole 'Informed Comment' site:

https://www.juancole.com/2017/12/tru...m-mideast.html

**Katman** · 8th December 2017, 17:02

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

The Saudis might not be too happy about that...

I don't think Israel gives a fuck what the Saudis think of it.

Israel's always had a policy of 'what Israel wants, Israel gets'.

**Grumph** · 8th December 2017, 18:36

Can't open that Juan Cole post.
What I'm hearing is that any embassy move is a minimum of three years in the making.
Land has to be found, acquired, cleared - all difficult in Jerusalem.
The building site and builders have to be effectively fortified and protected for the period of the build - and it will be under attack....
The degree of difficulty is akin to building a base on the moon...

And of course there's a good chance Trump will be out at the end of his first term.

But it will get him votes from the Trump faithful - the US is a sick country.

**oldrider** · 9th December 2017, 11:09

Some say - this is what JFK died for - trying to prevent this happening?

Might be banned in Israel but there it is on You Tube!

**Paul in NZ** · 11th December 2017, 08:16

Originally Posted by Katman

I don't think Israel gives a fuck what the Saudis think of it.

Israel's always had a policy of 'what Israel wants, Israel gets'.

True that....

**oldrider** · 11th December 2017, 10:10

Game show reveals what happens to Americans after a lifetime of exposure to mainstream media, public school & vaccines.

**oldrider** · 16th December 2017, 09:52

Assange: Deep State Still Intent on Removing Trump From Office and installing Mike Pence as president.

Also - Paul Joseph Watson | Infowars.com - December 15, 2017 https://www.infowars.com/assange-dee...p-from-office/ Political rust never sleeps?

Interesting?

**oldrider** · 17th December 2017, 16:36

Alabama Senate Race: MILITARY BALLOTS May Give Roy Moore the Victory: https://theblacksphere.net/2017/12/h...y-get-victory/

( can anyone hear any singing yet?)

**Viking01** · 19th December 2017, 19:08

Now that's a decent Christmas present for some...

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...tax-cut-report

**pete376403** · 19th December 2017, 20:19

Originally Posted by oldrider

Alabama Senate Race: MILITARY BALLOTS May Give Roy Moore the Victory: https://theblacksphere.net/2017/12/h...y-get-victory/

( can anyone hear any singing yet?)

Did you read any further than the headline? "LOL...can't even check out your sources? Both the Birmingham Press and Ladies of Liberty are satire sites and there's no such place as Bordalama, Al."

**oldrider** · 19th December 2017, 22:34

Originally Posted by pete376403

Did you read any further than the headline? "LOL...can't even check out your sources? Both the Birmingham Press and Ladies of Liberty are satire sites and there's no such place as Bordalama, Al."

True! - Not really worried about the site or content apart from the crap surrounding the election and the results etc - unbelievable!

**pritch** · 20th December 2017, 09:28

Originally Posted by oldrider

Assange: Deep State Still Intent on Removing Trump From Office and installing Mike Pence as president.

Also - Paul Joseph Watson

Assange has an axe to grind so his views are somewhat coloured. I don't believe the "deep state" even exists, it's a figment of Bannon's fevered imagination.

Watson is a fucking idiot and I have read enough of his rantings to know not to waste time watching him on Info Wars. (Except possibly sometimes for amusement.)

Fox "News" is working hard at discrediting Comey and Mueller with charges of them being Democrat hacks. Both Comey and Mueller are registered Republicans and both were appointed head of the FBI by Republican presidents.

Alabama election winner Doug Jones may not be in the Senate very long. Three quarters of white male voters voted for Moore as did two thirds of white women. What got Jones elected were the 98% of black women and the 96% of black male voters. If he has any idea of sticking around he needs to be nice to the black people, but he has already said that he may sometimes have to vote with the Republicans.

Nine out of the ten poorest states in the USA are solid Republican. Alabama is rated the poorest and worst educated of the lot. Some of the poor whites give Christianity as the reason for voting against the Democrats but there isn't much Christ in their religion. Fundamentalist religous bigots would be a better description.

/RANT