The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[oldrider]

Today in the White House:- https://twitter.com/i/status/1105174585866096640

[oldrider]

Tucker Carlson living dangerously? - or just part of the orchestrated deception? - (Time will reveal all eventually)

[Viking01]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/trave...lion-air-crash

There was some reporting on MSNBC on this fiasco a few days back. Seems US pilots had been
logging the autopilot 'nose down fault' on US flights for several months and even prior to the Lion
Air incident.

The fault appears to be related to a design decision to have the software respond to the inputs
from a single flight instrument. Clearly somebody in Boeing's engineering / accounting department
was having a bad day when approving that design.

Apparently, Boeing was/has developing a patch, but roll-out got delayed because of the 5 week
US government shutdown (as discussions couldn't be completed with the FAA).

Further, it transpires that Boeing's CEO was on the phone to Trump after the Ethiopian crash, which
partly explains the US delay in grounding their fleet of Max8s. It was observed that the US Secretary
of Transport has the power to ground aircraft whenever. Her reluctance to act/lead on this occasion
has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that she (Elaine Chao) is the wife of GOP Senate leader
Mitch McConnell.

[Viking01]

https://off-guardian.org/2019/03/29/2020-ready-or-not/

Now that the Russiagate saga is almost dead and buried (pity some of the US
politicians couldn't have accompanied it), it must almost be time to get yourself
in fighting form for the fun of the 2020 US elections.

Maybe even treat ourselves to a new thread ?

[pritch]

Now that the Russiagate saga is almost dead and buried

Hardly. When the Starr report on Clinton was complete it was made available in 48 hours. Barr wants six weeks plus. That isn't normal.

Despite the fact that the Mueller report is a mystery to all but Mueller, Barr, and their respective staff, the Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee wrote a letter demanding Adam Schiff, the new chairman, resign. They were miffed because he continued to accuse Trump of collusion even though in their minds Trump had been cleared by the Mueller report - which they hadn't read.

There are many versions of this clip about but all have been edited to suit the purpose of the TV channel using it. This is from
c-span which is similar to Parliamentary TV although there is added commentary at the end, but I haven't watched that. It's a pity because Schiff went on to detail Trump's attempts to build a Trump tower in Moscow in exchange for relaxing sanctions on Russia, and then lying about it.

I suspect the Republicans wish they hadn't written their letter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSw6...&frags=pl%2Cwn

If that link doesn't work try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cme...&frags=pl%2Cwn

Unless, of course, you have rthe attention span of a gold fish

[Viking01]

It must be CIA recruiting time again. Time to return to the
old Texas stomping ground and check out the new talent.
And who better to do a sales job than the previous Director
of the CIA, Mike Pompeo.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51476.htm

You can watch the full 32 minutes video, or maybe just
watch the last 4 minutes (starting around the 29 minute
mark).

Can't think why he reminds me of Tony Soprano.

[oldrider]

Something to watch from our (once upon a time) safe grandstand? - Source: https://www.transcend.org/tms/2019/0...-fall-of-2019/

[Banditbandit]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...chment/587785/

[Banditbandit]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...on-republicans

[TheDemonLord]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...on-republicans

Both of those are a bit piss-weak.

One is by someone who clearly didn't like Trump from the outset and now wants to get some hero points, the other is just straw-clutching - the Comparison between coercing someone to submit a faked affidavit (Clinton) and in their words 'Asking them not to co-operate' (as opposed to falsifying a legal document) is stretched.

All that does is reek of desperation and sore-losers - like someone who thinks if they point the finger hard enough, it will make themselves look good.

[oldrider]

Bombing Iran "halfway back to the stone age"? http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/51588.htm - Reasonable and considerate? -

[Quote]Not full-scale war, but an excuse for the US and Israel to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities, key military sites and communications infrastructure as was done with Iraq. It won’t be back all the way to the Stone Age, but half way, so that Iran’s development is set back by a decade.
Israel will then use its control over the US Congress to keep Iran under a very tight embargo. The Pentagon’s original plan to punish Iran called for some 2,300 air strikes on Day 1 alone.

Washington’s hope, as usual, is that growing misery and hardship in Iran will provoke a revolt to oust the Islamic government, allowing the US to install the exiled Iranian royalists it has waiting in Southern California. This was the pattern in Cuba, Nicaragua, Iraq, Syria, Libya and now Venezuela. It’s not diplomacy, just brute force. [Unquote] -----

[pritch]

Bolton has been keen to bomb Iran and North Korea for over twenty years. It doesn't matter what the problem is Bolton's solution involves bombs.

Putin was apparently becoming concerned and it's believed he told Trump to back off. Of course the truth is difficult to ascertain because Trump's conversations with Putin are private. The fact that it's illegal for him to have private conversations with Putin is another matter.

"Wag The Dog"? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120885...f_=nv_sr_1_v_1

[husaberg]

Bolton has been keen to bomb Iran and North Korea for over twenty years. It doesn't matter what the problem is Bolton's solution involves bombs.

Putin was apparently becoming concerned and it's believed he told Trump to back off. Of course the truth is difficult to ascertain because Trump's conversations with Putin are private. The fact that it's illegal for him to have private conversations with Putinis another matter.

"Wag The Dog"? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120885...f_=nv_sr_1_v_1

But neither are cool enough to take their body guards for a 10KM run every day

[pritch]

But neither are cool enough to take their body guards for a 10KM run every day

Amateurs. Erdogan's body guards started beating the crap out of people protesting his visit to the USA. In the USA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8Yj...&frags=pl%2Cwn

[oldrider]

Foreign agents attacking American citizens on American soil and nothing being done about it? - MAGA?