The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

**sugilite:Me** · 13th November 2019, 09:14

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

To Sum up: If we take the new policy on Good Faith, then it has a kernel of a good idea. There needs to be clarification as to what degree of transparency they are after (there may be in the full policy, but CBF). This rule would apply equally to both sets of Lobby/Advocacy groups doing 'science' on both sides of the issue - which seems to me to be a good thing as if proper science is done, then the truth will out. If we are using Truth to determine Policy, ultimately we should get better policy.

So that's my take on it.

Yeah, I'm on board with all of that, lets hope the process is not abused. It "could" be a good thing.

**austingtir** · 13th November 2019, 09:15

Meanwhile in Syria:

the media goes to visit those "Austere religious scholars" the washington post was prattling on about and get the response they deserve:

"we're going to slaughter you"

**sugilite:Me** · 13th November 2019, 09:19

Originally Posted by pritch

Now Trump has gutted the US Dept of Agriculture.

You could go off on a rambling dissertation - or you could just understand that the ignorant fucker does not like science.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...me-scientists/

Yeah, while I agree with a lot of what Demonlord says, the thing that makes me nervous is the administration overseeing it and Trumps proven record of rolling back environmental gains to suit big business - along with the retrospective aspect, if abused - could be extremely damaging to say the least.

**sugilite:Me** · 13th November 2019, 09:32

Originally Posted by Mr. Peanut

I get most of my analysis from this guy. Seriously.

I agree with a lot of what he has to say. What I do not feel he is taking into account though is the level that love him or loath him Trump has triggered voters to take more notice of politics and motivated them to vote. Especially the youth.
Completely agree with what he says about all the lame duck democrat nominees.

**pritch** · 13th November 2019, 09:38

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Errr .. you seem to be ignoring several bankruptcies with that statement - and his debt to the Russian backed and about to be defunct Deutsche Bank

The MAGAts believe Trump was a successful businessman, nobody else does. Six bankruptcies, even Trump Casinos failed ffs. Trump water, Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, Trump Mortgages, Trump Vodka, and Trump University, for which the court ordered he pay 20 Million. All failed.

"A poor man's idea of a rich man, a weak man's idea of a strong man, a stupid man's idea of a smart man."

**TheDemonLord** · 13th November 2019, 09:40

Originally Posted by pritch

The MAGAts believe Trump was a successful businessman, nobody else does. Six bankruptcies, even Trump Casinos failed ffs. Trump water, Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, Trump Mortgages, Trump Vodka, and Trump University for which the court ordered he pay 20 Million. All failed.

And?

He's still at the very least a Multi-Millionaire, widely to believed to be a Billionaire.

That therefore means he is a successful Businessman. This point should not even be up for debate.

**sugilite:Me** · 13th November 2019, 09:49

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

And?

He's still at the very least a Multi-Millionaire, widely to believed to be a Billionaire.

That therefore means he is a successful Businessman. This point should not even be up for debate.

Yeah, nah, I don't agree with this. If he released his tax records (as he is on record as saying he will) it is my opinion that they will show he is no where near as wealthy as he makes out.
The only way I can think of that one would fail with a casino business, is by siphoning too much cash out the back door.

**TheDemonLord** · 13th November 2019, 09:55

Originally Posted by sugilite

Yeah, nah, I don't agree with this. If he released his tax records (as he is on record as saying he will) it is my opinion that they will show he is no where near as wealthy as he makes out.
The only way I can think of that one would fail with a casino business, is by siphoning too much cash out the back door.

Assume he's not as wealthy as he Makes out, okay, fair enough - I'll accept that.

Even then, he's still vastly wealthier than You or I. He's still done massive business ventures, had his named festooned upon Hotels, Private Jets etc.

**sugilite:Me** · 13th November 2019, 10:25

Originally Posted by TheDemonLord

Assume he's not as wealthy as he Makes out, okay, fair enough - I'll accept that.

Even then, he's still vastly wealthier than You or I. He's still done massive business ventures, had his named festooned upon Hotels, Private Jets etc.

Yeah, my Dad was nowhere as rich as his

**pritch** · 13th November 2019, 12:48

Originally Posted by sugilite

Yeah, my Dad was nowhere as rich as his

Yeah. Apparently after allowance for inflation he has about what he inherited. He could have invested it and sat at home doing finger painting and he'd have as much.

Everytime I see a financial report on one of his golf courses it has lost millions. Sometimes lost tens of millions. It just doesn't make sense - unless it's all some sort of money laundering scheme. Russian money.

F'rinstance:https:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...734_story.html

https://skift.com/2017/10/09/trump-r...e-than-double/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...539_story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/16/u...sclosures.html

There are several mentions in that lot that he paid cash for the Scottish and Irish properties. Roubles?

**husaberg** · 13th November 2019, 17:21

Originally Posted by sugilite

LOL, "your coup"

Your frothing again Austin

Old Austins doing a stirling job of making New Conservative voters look dim...............

**austingtir** · 13th November 2019, 20:33

^^

And do you asure the quality of your post's before you hit send?

You obviously didnt learn anything from your "holiday".

**husaberg** · 13th November 2019, 21:10

Originally Posted by austingtir

^^

And do you asure the quality of your post's before you hit send?

You obviously didnt learn anything from your "holiday".

Poor Austiej, he trys and misses again, you are attempting to make up for a lack of quality with a vast quantity of rubbish.
I should i give you twelve tries to get it right , maybe then you will put more of value then on getting you facts right.
but until then you really should crawl back under da rock you crawled out of fairy.
PS You really should stand as a candidate at the election if only to get it through just how much you are out of touch with reality you are
i doubt you would even get 12c votes

tally HO.

**Mr. Peanut** · 13th November 2019, 21:10

Originally Posted by pritch

The MAGAts believe Trump was a successful businessman, nobody else does. Six bankruptcies, even Trump Casinos failed ffs. Trump water, Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, Trump Mortgages, Trump Vodka, and Trump University, for which the court ordered he pay 20 Million. All failed.

"A poor man's idea of a rich man, a weak man's idea of a strong man, a stupid man's idea of a smart man."

You're awfully sure of yourself. He's the most powerful man in the world, it's fair to assume he's not a complete idiot.