The American (USA) 2016 presidential elections thread?

[Ocean1]

Living here in Arkansas for the last year and a half, I had a dilemma going on - in my head lol.
I was not sure what to call black people here. But after talking to a few... guess what, they like to be referred to as simply "Black". And to quote several - they have said things along the line of " I'm black, your white, her over there is brown", then throw up their hands as a motion of "obvious eh!" and so it was. Though I'm kinda a pasty pale tan myself. I learned they do not, and I mean do NOT like being called African Americans, they say that insinuates they are something other than simply "American". For the record they are waaaay more open and friendly on average on than the majority of the white folk around these parts.

When the Steven Adams "quick little monkeys" thing happened he was defended as being "not white", (presumably on the basis that the rules for the use of nouns are different for them). But a common response to that was that he was an "international white" and therefore still guilty as fuck.

Which, (apart from the automatic assumption that there was racist intent behind the original quote and zero understanding or tolerance for how other cultures use language) makes it tolerably obvious there's a default to some sort of binary them/us going on there.

[oldrider]

Apparently it all depends upon perception of the receiver! - - https://twitter.com/HenryMakow/statu...rymakow.com%2F -

[pritch]

Living here in Arkansas for the last year and a half, I had a dilemma going on - in my head lol.
I was not sure what to call black people here. But after talking to a few... guess what, they like to be referred to as simply "Black".

Following the first candidates' debate some people (notably Trump Jr) questioned Kamala Harris identifying as black. Her parents originated in India and Jamaica so that was not considered black apparently.

It occurrs to me that he difference between an African American and a Jamaican was only a few degrees on a ships compass a couple of hundred years ago.

In the current instance though "women of color" was probably accurate as the four of them vary considerably in hue.


Ocean,

Yeah. I would associate the phrase, "little monkey" with a mischievous child. In the US it's used very differently.
Like the word 'thug'. When you see or hear that word used the subject always seems to be black. Thug is the new N word?

[jasonu]

Yeah. I would associate the phrase, "little monkey" with a mischievous child. In the US it's used very differently.
Like the word 'thug'. When you see or hear that word used the subject always seems to be black. Thug is the new N word?

Except the obvious one time I've never heard anyone say little monkey.
You are wrong about the use of thug too. It can refer to any color of arsehole.
Black people say nigger more than anyone.

[sugilite:Me]

Just in reply to comments on what I said, it appears to me that it seems to be mostly a sub section of right leaning white people who seem to analyze if or how black a person is. The Black/brown people do not seem to talk about that very much.

[Ocean1]

Yeah. I would associate the phrase, "little monkey" with a mischievous child. In the US it's used very differently.
Like the word 'thug'. When you see or hear that word used the subject always seems to be black. Thug is the new N word?

Was common usage in Britain as such when I lived there, certainly heard it lots as a kid growing up here.

Thug = Thuggee = Indian origin, no black American history at all. Is there a trend there of adopting other culture's words, changing the meaning and then getting offended when anyone else uses them?

[jasonu]

Thug = Thuggee = Indian origin, no black American history at all. Is there a trend there of adopting other culture's words, changing the meaning and then getting offended when anyone else uses them?

Only if it suits ones agenda.

[Ocean1]

Just in reply to comments on what I said, it appears to me that it seems to be mostly a sub section of right leaning white people who seem to analyze if or how black a person is. The Black/brown people do not seem to talk about that very much.

Similar experience here, except it seemed to me to be left leaning American white people that were the most vociferous in defending black rights against perceived offense from cultures outside of the US. Maybe I'm wrong, but either way by all means fuck all bigots that can't recognise that cultural mores beyond their own back yards might not agree 100% with their own.

[oldrider]

Little Trumpolites from endgame panacea on Twitter:- https://twitter.com/EndgamePanacea/s...rymakow.com%2F -

[austingtir]

US President Donald Trump has tweeted out comments made by a Republican senator who branded the ‘squad’ of four freshman Democratic congresswoman who accused him of racism as “the four horsewomen of the apocalypse.”

Donald J. Trump
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...opinion, they’re Americans. Now I’m entitled to my opinion, & I just think they’re left wing cranks. They’re the reason there are directions on a shampoo bottle, & we should ignore them. The “squad” has moved the Democrat Party substantially LEFT, and.....


Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
....they are destroying the Democrat Party. I’m appalled that so many of our Presidential candidates are falling all over themselves to try to agree with the four horsewomen of the apocalypse. I’m entitled to say that they’re Wack Jobs.” Louisiana Senator John Kennedy

[sugilite:Me]

US President Donald Trump has tweeted out comments made by a Republican senator who branded the ‘squad’ of four freshman Democratic congresswoman who accused him of racism as “the four horsewomen of the apocalypse.”

And yet, if he was the shrewd towering mountain of intellect you seem to think he is, he would only be tweeting out about the strong (for now) American economy giving himself the maximum chance of reelection - rather than tweeting out controversial distracting tweets that are alienating more and more voters thus shrinking his ever diminishing base.

And yes I get it, for people like you, these tweets are hugely entertaining - but in effect Trump is smashing himself in the bread basket over and over again. And for that reason people like me also find these tweets hugely entertaining.

[Laava]

Making America Gormless Again

[austingtir]

Global politics is no longer left vs right. It’s nationalists vs treasonous globalists that want to destroy their home/host countries







"takes his children to church"
These people are crazy!

[austingtir]

And yet, if he was the shrewd towering mountain of intellect you seem to think he is, he would only be tweeting out about the strong (for now) American economy giving himself the maximum chance of reelection - rather than tweeting out controversial distracting tweets that are alienating more and more voters thus shrinking his ever diminishing base.

And yes I get it, for people like you, these tweets are hugely entertaining - but in effect Trump is smashing himself in the bread basket over and over again. And for that reason people like me also find these tweets hugely entertaining.

Nope Trumps a (stable) genius and I'll tell you why...

The Dems were starting to turn on AOC and her crew. Odds are they were going to be largely marginalized soon.

Trump picks a fight with them and now the dems are circling the wagons- around some of the least popular people in the country. Ilhan Omar has an approval rating of 9% in a recent poll. AOC is like 26%. Just lol.

Can you imagine if he can actually keep 2020 framed as him against this crew?

He's going to beat reagans records.

[austingtir]

Continued:

"I could go through a lengthy punchlist of examples of Trump statements and moves that prove the 3D chess theory, but that would dramatically overtake the space this column has to offer. Instead, let’s just talk about this weekend’s flare-up over the president’s Twitter outburst aimed at The Squad — the four idiot freshman Democrat congresswomen, led by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar, who have spent their time as elected officials offering one inappropriate and stupid anti-American outburst after another.
Paul Mirengoff at Power Line pointed out why. AOC and Omar, particularly, are becoming two of the best-known members of Pelosi’s caucus, and they are both becoming absolutely radioactive. To wit …

A May poll reportedly found that Ocasio-Cortez is profoundly unpopular in congressional districts throughout America. More than 74 percent of those surveyed recognized her name. Only 22 percent had a favorable view of her.

Ilhan Omar fared even worse. She was recognized by 53 percent, with only 9 percent holding a favorable view. Socialism was viewed favorably by 18 percent and unfavorably by 69 percent.

Chris White of the Daily Caller says Democratic leaders are concerned that with all the publicity Ocasio-Cortez and Omar generate, the party might lose the House. Ocasio-Cortez “is getting all the news and defining everyone else’s races,” one operative fretted.
A top Democrat involved in the 2020 congressional races told Axios, “If all voters hear about is AOC, it could put the [House] majority at risk. [S]he’s getting all the news and defining everyone else’s races. Socialism is toxic to these voters.”

So what do you do if you want to ensure Omar and AOC poison those so-called moderate Democrats who won those swing House districts last year?

You force Pelosi into bed with them."

Which is precisely what Trump has done.
Cliffs:
- 4 idiot freshmen "congresswomyn" are toxic to voters
- Trump mocks and forces Pelosi and democRATs to defend 4 idiots
- Pelosi and democRATs become toxic to voters too
- Trump wins back House in 2020!

Read the whole column and LOL @ the democRATs here:

https://spectator.org/trump-troll-level-grand-master/

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...26698392965123