Akaroa GP rant

[Maha]

Probably before his time. T'was "Stand by your man" we first heard and if memory serves "Loose wheel" when we caught up.

Tammy/Kenny etc before Billy, class before arse, like the 70's GL ...before they fully dressed them.

[PistonBlown]

Worked for a haulage company called C&H Hauliers Ltd in the 90's. One driver hit a guy on a motorbike who'd been taking a 'racing' line on a corner . The helmet saved the guys head from injury but unfortunately it was about 20 metres from his body.

[Maha]

The irony of that is, it's the head as a whole that dictates your every aspect and decision on the road...without it, you're fucked.

[eldog]

Worked for a haulage company called C&H Hauliers Ltd in the 90's. One driver hit a guy on a motorbike who'd been taking a 'racing' line on a corner . The helmet saved the guys head from injury but unfortunately it was about 20 metres from his body.

With that in mind, I always try to ride on my side of the road.
I get pissed off with myself when I find I am on the other side.

However, I am trying to improve my skills.... I want to be able to avoid another vehicle when it arrives on my side - as best I can.

[swbarnett]

I've been watching my own riding since this thread started. There are two right-handers on my daily commute where I'm regularly on the center line with most of me and bike over. I say regularly because, of course, any hint of oncoming traffic and I keep well to the left of the line. Visibility in these corners is as good as it's ever going to get (low fence, no trees, sight line across the paddock for at least 100m on either side).

Like any "technique". Done properly it's not a problem.

[pritch]

Was her way of driving... scary

There was a diagram on Twitter this morning, an intersection with three cars. The task was to indicate the order in which the cars should proceed.
Only a small minority had the right idea.

I once did an exercise at work with one of the diagrams from the licence test, at first nobody got it right, and it should have been about 50/50 if they'd been guessing. It wasn't until I got to some of the more senior women, including the manager, that any answered correctly, which I found surprising. When I mentioned this to the manager she laughed and told me that at that stage I was questioning people who were teaching their kids to drive and who therefore were studying the road code.

Be careful, most of the people you are sharing the road with haven't got a bloody clue.

[EJK]

There was a diagram on Twitter this morning, an intersection with three cars. The task was to indicate the order in which the cars should proceed.
Only a small minority had the right idea.

I once did an exercise at work with one of the diagrams from the licence test, at first nobody got it right, and it should have been about 50/50 if they'd been guessing. It wasn't until I got to some of the more senior women, including the manager, that any answered correctly, which I found surprising. When I mentioned this to the manager she laughed and told me that at that stage I was questioning people who were teaching their kids to drive and who therefore were studying the road code.

Be careful, most of the people you are sharing the road with haven't got a bloody clue.

But.... but... it's the tourists killing us Kiwi drivers! Ban them!

[Maha]

With that in mind, I always try to ride on my side of the road.
I get pissed off with myself when I find I am on the other side.

However, I am trying to improve my skills.... I want to be able to avoid another vehicle when it arrives on my side - as best I can.

It's where you place yourself on the road (particularly through a corner as per the thread topic) that counts. I followed a mate for a day's riding about eight years ago, his lines were outstanding and noticeably different than the track I was using at that time. I started using his lines early on that day and noticed almost instantly that a faster/smoother corner speed was achievable. Riding a bike seemed different/better with way less 'oh bugger' moments. Thank you John Baine.

There is only so much an instructor can teach to a group at any one time, nothing can compare to one on one tuition for the ultimate outcome.

The Photo below, though posted earlier, clearly demonstrates the way NOT to corner on a motorcycle.


https://www.facebook.com/24833050867...type=3&theater

[nzspokes]

Sounds to me like you were riding under pressure to keeep up. There was a story in the media last year that 3 riders all crashed off the road on Gebbies Pass and that would happen due to either pressure to keep up or following the same line. You are putting you life in the hands of the lead rider and if he screws up and dies you will too most likely.

Keep.

Learn to spell.

[OddDuck]

Went (late) to the Polished Rockers show, took the Paekakariki Hill road over. The number of bikes coming the other way leaning over into my lane was just ridiculous... seriously at least a third of the riders didn't seem to know how to take a tight corner without projecting.

[Maha]

Sounds to me like you were riding under pressure to keeep up. There was a story in the media last year that 3 riders all crashed off the road on Gebbies Pass and that would happen due to either pressure to keep up or following the same line. You are putting you life in the hands of the lead rider and if he screws up and dies you will too most likely.

Point 1: I have NEVER ridden under pressure.
Point 2: I have NEVER felt the need to keep.
Point 3: My point was, that I learnt something that day, it improved a part of my riding that obviously needed improving on.

I do however, know of a situation where a returning rider, tried to keep up with some quicker riders, and lost a leg a few kms later, he also lost his life that day.

You seem to fail with the concept that people can learn from others, good or bad.

[Moi]

I've been watching my own riding since this thread started. There are two right-handers on my daily commute where I'm regularly on the center line with most of me and bike over. I say regularly because, of course, any hint of oncoming traffic and I keep well to the left of the line. Visibility in these corners is as good as it's ever going to get (low fence, no trees, sight line across the paddock for at least 100m on either side).

Like any "technique". Done properly it's not a problem.

You'd be one of those "thinking riders"...


shame a few more on the roads, whether riders or drivers, didn't try this "thinking" stuff...

[Moi]

There was a diagram on Twitter this morning, an intersection with three cars. The task was to indicate the order in which the cars should proceed.
Only a small minority had the right idea...

Any change to copy and paste that diagram on here?

[5ive]

Remember kids, no more than two motorcycles on the same road at the same time, or we'll all die...

[Maha]

3 riders that went off the road on Gebbies Pass which could have resulted in just following the same line and not necessarily riding under pressure to keep up.

The smarter rider would recognising fault before following.