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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    When I was an ACC motorcycle popo we were on R80RTs.

    Liverpool Street in Auckland was where we did that stuff. Fierce.
    Did the bike have crampons rather than tyres?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Rule 1B for braking in corners is use a gear lower than usual, employ the higher revs to generate back pressure, and use steady throttle control to deploy the pressure. Using good control of the revs and engine braking means I get to comply with Rule 1.

    Most folk don't use the full rev range of their bike. Mine is happily normally running (at Corporal Jones pace, my standard) at up to 4000 revs, but the red line is at 9000. When using engine braking a choose a gear that takes me up to around 7, 7 tops.
    Starting to get a little bike-specific. Do that on my old XB Buells and you'd better have the clutch covered, the back will step out, potentially lots.

    It comes back though, as the bike slows towards the apex. In fact apart from the likely initial nudge on the "manual slipper clutch" it's somewhat self-correcting, quite predictable and reasonably safe.

    Do the same on some high-strung smaller bikes without the rotational mass of the bigger beasties and you'll push the engine up into potential damage rev territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    When I was an ACC motorcycle popo we were on R80RTs.

    Liverpool Street in Auckland was where we did that stuff. Fierce.
    Back in the '80s I had to stop half way up Liverpool Street a couple of times. I had no choice but to do a backwards U-turn. My CB250 simply didn't have the guts to get moving again uphill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    My own version of trail braking is to use the rear for increased slow speed control. I trail the brake to gain greater control and maneuverability.

    I was taking the mick with the trail bike reference. Couldn't help myself.



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    Trail braking, or draggin the rear brake pre-corner for entry setup.

    This makes the bike "squat" down lower, thus lengthening the distance between the two axles and lowering the center of gravity.
    This means More stability entering the corner, more grip on the rear end due to less front end dive when ya hit the front picks (its not the fastest way to corner, but this is what I was taught many many yrs ago at advanced rider training...seems to work? )


    ...but what would I know....I drive a friggin car now (work is not bike friendly(Im too "scruffy" in my gear...its been nearly 9 months now with only the odd sneaky "rego's on hold" run on the weekends...and its doin ma head in!!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by willytheekid View Post
    Trail braking, or draggin the rear brake pre-corner for entry setup.

    This makes the bike "squat" down lower, thus lengthening the distance between the two axles and lowering the center of gravity.
    This means More stability entering the corner, more grip on the rear end due to less front end dive when ya hit the front picks (its not the fastest way to corner, but this is what I was taught many many yrs ago at advanced rider training...seems to work? )


    ...but what would I know....I drive a friggin car now (work is not bike friendly(Im too "scruffy" in my gear...its been nearly 9 months now with only the odd sneaky "non rego'd" run on the weekends...and its doin ma head in!!)
    Hey Wheelie, if you are missing a ride, I have a moped you can borrow......

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    If'n any of y'all want to see white line love head up my way this weekend. The Iron Run is in town.
    Followed home by 3 bikes, 2 cruisers and 1 dunno, twin headlight jobbie, this arvo. Lost count of the times they crossed the centre line or leaned over it on an 8km stretch of twisty road. That's just what I spotted in my mirrors.

    The leader was sat in my blind spot when an opportunity came up for me to let them past and have a crack at the 3 cars ahead of me. Sure as shit stinks off they went, one got past before the blind crest and corner at the top of Lemons hill, the other two continued to squeeze through on the white line with oncoming vehicles. But no trucks...

    Why ride into shit you can't see on the wrong side of the road? The first rider must have had the EFTPOS card.

    Anyhoo. No surprises. I hope it's a great weekend for the participants and they keep their heads pulled in IYKWIM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Hey Wheelie, if you are missing a ride, I have a moped you can borrow......
    LOL...just need an entire new kit mate*, but thanks!




    *(You name it!, Helmet, boots, pants, jacket..sob!, love that jacket!, gloves and wet weather gear...all just worn out and looking like shit!...and I keep whats left of my brain in whats left of that 3.5yr old smelly helmet...hence its time to save up and update the safety gear before riding full time again...especially with the new baby and all that )

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    The HD Iron Run at Pahia has Kerikeri in its sights on Saturday for a run to Keri and back-anyone can join in but not me fellas-if what George saw with 3 of them imagine what the expected 1000 riders will produce,the T intersection at Puketona will be interesting,as will some of the bars in Paihia on Sat night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Knight View Post
    The HD Iron Run at Pahia has Kerikeri in its sights on Saturday for a run to Keri and back-anyone can join in but not me fellas-if what George saw with 3 of them imagine what the expected 1000 riders will produce,the T intersection at Puketona will be interesting,as will some of the bars in Paihia on Sat night.
    Don't be like that BK. Nothing happened, I'm just a tad over focused on this safety thing since I put the GF on two wheels. No doubt I was a bit lairy until I decided to up my game.

    I don't like group rides full stop. I always feel that I have to think for the other riders, too, and it wears me out mentally. I start to think of snooker or ten pin bowling.
    I will be in Paihia after 2pm to have a gawp at the heavy metal and the Mack breakdown truck. Sorry, hard to resist stereotype jokes.
    PM me if your coming over and I will put a red rose in my button hole.

    Ok, back to negotiating corners. As you were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Knight View Post
    The HD Iron Run at Pahia has Kerikeri in its sights on Saturday for a run to Keri and back-anyone can join in but not me fellas-if what George saw with 3 of them imagine what the expected 1000 riders will produce,the T intersection at Puketona will be interesting,as will some of the bars in Paihia on Sat night.

    ...you'd probably not fit in too well with one of your , 'bunch of Hondas' anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by george formby View Post
    Don't be like that BK. Nothing happened, I'm just a tad over focused on this safety thing since I put the GF on two wheels. No doubt I was a bit lairy until I decided to up my game.

    I don't like group rides full stop. I always feel that I have to think for the other riders, too, and it wears me out mentally. I start to think of snooker or ten pin bowling.
    I will be in Paihia after 2pm to have a gawp at the heavy metal and the Mack breakdown truck. Sorry, hard to resist stereotype jokes.
    PM me if your coming over and I will put a red rose in my button hole.

    Ok, back to negotiating corners. As you were.
    Speaking of corners and group rides.

    Yep same here tried it twice and Nah...Large group riders esp club HD runs tend to bunch up for that 'We are a Gang' look and feel that make most HD riders moist thus had me thinking ten pin bowls also.Then I heard a local story where some HD guys had a rideout with no set brief and some out of town riders mixed in.... Went around a sweeping RH with a side road running straight off to the left which a rider towards the front of the group thought was the route then had some behind try to follow so hello confusion and strike..

    I would never follow behind a car this close while riding at these speeds so seeing this displayed often makes my buttonhole pucker to rose stem diameters besides isn't tailgating the vehicle in front illegal even if bikes do or should stagger pattern?It would only take a slight move sideways of the bike in front for it to become too close...Ive never heard of anyone stopped on a group ride by Mr plod for this but have re tin tops.

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    Yeah, group rides. I'm sure that a bunch of mates, or a club, regularly riding together in staggered formation trust each other and have event free rides but I always feel hemmed in. I like as much space as I can get and sticking to a position on the road is anathema for me.

    I came around a corner t'other day to find a boat lying in the road, no dramas, but it highlights why I like my space.
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    Group rides.....I like to be ahead of the slowbies/casual group and well behind the Rossi wannabees and genuine fast guys group. Normally meant I rode by myself, which suited me fine. Now I just ride by myself - or with the missus - much less carnage.

    I learnt first hand about sticking too close/over the white line back in '76 - 4 o'clock in the morning heading down to Maketu from the North Shore...the long sweeping RH downhill bend on the top end of SH2 - before the timber mill.....logging truck coming the other way about 2 ft over the white line ,... so I had to rather rapidly change where I was on the road - a bit too much as it turned out as I ran off the edge of the seal (the road was tighter and narrower then), and hilarity ensued! Luckily it was dark, so I didn't see where I was going and what poles, posts, etc I was missing by a gnats testicle, but, GT750 Ducatis', while passable, are not recommended as Motorcross bikes !

    Needless to say, late turn in and nowt hanging over the line became more the flavour of the century from there on in.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Trail braking used to be quite common.

    There used to be a category of bikes called trail bikes. The brakes were used for trail braking.

    Now we call them endures, dual sports, moto cross bikes, and Shazam, trail braking has faded away.

    so funny , now Cassina will ask about Trail Nut bars

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...you'd probably not fit in too well with one of your , 'bunch of Hondas' anyway...
    I didn't tell ya how big the biggest one is eh?

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