Got given a bike with no WOF and no reg as a courtesy bike

[sidecar bob]

The whole thing demonstrates a casual attitude towards the law & clients alike. It doesn't inspire confidence in the provider at any other level either.
Well maintained, legal & insured vehicles specifically for the purpose of loaning to clients is the life blood of a successful vehicle repair business.

[Voltaire]

OP, out of interest did they " just hand over the keys" or make you sign forms with implications if you damage the vehicle?, excess and so on.

[Drew]

Having a non current reg is not as simple as just a fine because you have to pay reg back as far as when it expired too hence why many put it on hold.

Failure to display current vehicle license. That charge is just a fine.

Use of a vehicle with licence exemption. Demerits and a fine.

[jonnyk5614]

OP, out of interest did they " just hand over the keys" or make you sign forms with implications if you damage the vehicle?, excess and so on.

Signed the form which detailed the insurance excess and "you pay the speeding tickets" guff on it.


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[Erelyes]

Cop should have just issued a set of stationary vehicle infringements (200 no wof, 200 no rego). Parking tickets have no demerits or name to them.

And told you to hand the tickets to the bike shop when you return the loaner and they can sort it out...

[pritch]

The shop where I get my bike serviced usually puts a dealer plate on the loaner. Maybe that idea hasn't reached the North Shore yet?

[Voltaire]

Signed the form which detailed the insurance excess and "you pay the speeding tickets" guff on it.


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So they covered themselves and offered you a courtesy vehicle that did not have a current rego and wof.....

[Tazz]

I had a similar situation a few years ago with a trailer hire. Didn't get a ticket either and always check WOF's and regos on rentals and loaners now as a result.

Bit slack of the dealer but mistakes happen and at the end of the day it all ended well, so easy life lesson and all that..

[spanner spinner]

The shop where I get my bike serviced usually puts a dealer plate on the loaner. Maybe that idea hasn't reached the North Shore yet?

Sorry not legal, see the rules below for the use of dealer plates, bet you they didn't give you any paperwork to go with the plate. Most shops get away with doing this as the rules are not well know.


In limited cases, you can use trade plates to drive a vehicle that is uncertified and unregistered.
Trade plates let you drive a vehicle to and from testing stations, specialist repairers and garages in order to bring it up to the appropriate standard. Vehicle repairers can also use trade plates on a registered but unlicensed vehicle that doesn't have a warrant of fitness or certificate of fitness, where the vehicle can't be licensed until the repairs are completed.

Staying within the law

You must have a valid trade plate fitted to the vehicle.

Also, you have to be driving the vehicle for one of these reasons, which must be within the purpose you were granted the trade plates:
•demonstration of the vehicle
•delivery of the vehicle
•completion of construction of the vehicle
•repair or modification of the vehicle
•road testing in connection with inspection and certification of the vehicle
•evaluation or testing of the vehicle.
Before you drive the vehicle you must also:
•complete a conditional permit and carry this with you when driving
•complete a safety checksheet and carry this with you when driving.
You can only drive the vehicle to or from one of the addresses listed on your conditional permit.

Conditional permits
You need to complete a conditional permit before driving vehicles not certified for use on the road. You complete the permit, sign it and date it yourself and then keep it with you to hand over if you're stopped by the NZ Police or one of our compliance officers.

The permit consists of:
•annex A (external link) – you list where you can drive the vehicle
•annex B (external link) – your promise that you've carried out the safety check and that you'll only drive the vehicle for the purpose you're allowed to drive.
You need to complete annex A and B if you're driving the vehicle no more than 50km from your business premises. If you want to drive a light vehicle further, you must tow or transport it or get it certified.

If you're planning to drive a heavy vehicle (over 3500kg gross laden weight) more than 50km from your business premises you need to visit one of our licensing agents. The agent will inspect the vehicle and issue an annex C form.

Safety checks

You must:

•carry out a safety check on the vehicle before it's driven anywhere – use the check sheets linked below
•transport or tow the vehicle everywhere if it doesn't pass
•sign the safety check form if the vehicle passes
•keep the safety check form in the vehicle.
Signing the safety check form makes you responsible for the vehicle's condition. If you don't have enough experience and skill to carry out the safety check, we strongly recommend you use someone who does.

[IkieBikie]

I head back into the city and promptly get pulled over by the cops on Queen Street.

Any reason in particular they pulled you over??

[AllanB]

So if no WOF, possibly a insurance out - so if you'd dropped it and the insurance company declined cover you'd be in the clear as it was not insured thus document irrelevant :-)

The shits should have checked it first - not you!

[RGVforme]

So you had a blood rush to your lower brain at getting a free ride on a cool bike so burnt off down the road on a unfamiliar steed without checking brakes tyres fluid levels or any looking at it first?.....On a bike that has not needed a wof inspection in a year or a spanner on it in god knows when.

Now that's what I call trust in your bike dealer.

[jonnyk5614]

Any reason in particular they pulled you over??

They'd been behind me for about a minute when I ducked down a little side road looking for parking. It looked dodgy though as it was a dead end road so they ran my plate.


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[jonnyk5614]

Sorry not legal, see the rules below for the use of dealer plates, bet you they didn't give you any paperwork to go with the plate. Most shops get away with doing this as the rules are not well know.


In limited cases, you can use trade plates to drive a vehicle that is uncertified and unregistered.
Trade plates let you drive a vehicle to and from testing stations, specialist repairers and garages in order to bring it up to the appropriate standard. Vehicle repairers can also use trade plates on a registered but unlicensed vehicle that doesn't have a warrant of fitness or certificate of fitness, where the vehicle can't be licensed until the repairs are completed.

Staying within the law

You must have a valid trade plate fitted to the vehicle.

Also, you have to be driving the vehicle for one of these reasons, which must be within the purpose you were granted the trade plates:
•demonstration of the vehicle
•delivery of the vehicle
•completion of construction of the vehicle
•repair or modification of the vehicle
•road testing in connection with inspection and certification of the vehicle
•evaluation or testing of the vehicle.
Before you drive the vehicle you must also:
•complete a conditional permit and carry this with you when driving
•complete a safety checksheet and carry this with you when driving.
You can only drive the vehicle to or from one of the addresses listed on your conditional permit.

Conditional permits
You need to complete a conditional permit before driving vehicles not certified for use on the road. You complete the permit, sign it and date it yourself and then keep it with you to hand over if you're stopped by the NZ Police or one of our compliance officers.

The permit consists of:
•annex A (external link) – you list where you can drive the vehicle
•annex B (external link) – your promise that you've carried out the safety check and that you'll only drive the vehicle for the purpose you're allowed to drive.
You need to complete annex A and B if you're driving the vehicle no more than 50km from your business premises. If you want to drive a light vehicle further, you must tow or transport it or get it certified.

If you're planning to drive a heavy vehicle (over 3500kg gross laden weight) more than 50km from your business premises you need to visit one of our licensing agents. The agent will inspect the vehicle and issue an annex C form.

Safety checks

You must:

•carry out a safety check on the vehicle before it's driven anywhere – use the check sheets linked below
•transport or tow the vehicle everywhere if it doesn't pass
•sign the safety check form if the vehicle passes
•keep the safety check form in the vehicle.
Signing the safety check form makes you responsible for the vehicle's condition. If you don't have enough experience and skill to carry out the safety check, we strongly recommend you use someone who does.

I test road 12 bikes when choosing this one, most on a dealer plate.

The only time I got given any dealer plate paperwork was for a new Daytona from Experience Motorcycles. He handed me back a copy of the "insurance form" which when I emptied my pocket later I found also had the dealer plate stuff.
The 50km was news to me. Took the R1 I rode 250km!


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[spanner spinner]

I test road 12 bikes when choosing this one, most on a dealer plate.

The only time I got given any dealer plate paperwork was for a new Daytona from Experience Motorcycles. He handed me back a copy of the "insurance form" which when I emptied my pocket later I found also had the dealer plate stuff.
The 50km was news to me. Took the R1 I rode 250km!


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perfectly legal for test rides especial if they gave you the dealer plate paperwork, as it says in the rules can be used to demonstrate an unregistered vehicle. The 50km limit is as the crow flies from the dealership so a pretty big area.

The only proviso is that you cant fit it to a bike that is registered but has either a lapsed licence (rego sticker) or has the rego on hold, but this happens all the time as most people don't understand the rules around dealer plates.

as for being outside the 50km limit this is only a problem if you get pulled and the police officer knows where the shop is, I have only heard of one person getting pinged for this. The shop was in Napier and they where picked up just north of wellington, they picked up they new bike on Saturday morning after much pestering but in the days when you couldn't register things on the weekend only Monday to Friday. they where told the bike wouldn't be ready to be picked up till Monday but they couldn't wait so the dealer lent them the plate for the weekend so they could at least take their new toy home. They where told the rules and to bring the bike back Monday to be registered, decided to go for a little ride to run it in and got pinged for speeding. The cop also uplifted the plate which caused a few problems and a trailer bound retrieval of said new bike. The shop was not impressed come Monday morning as no dealer plate and they have to apply to get a new plate with a please explain letter as to why they should get it back.