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    I'm surprised people are making suggestions about What to buy without knowing wether you're 50kg or 150kg.
    Clearly you're pretty at home on a thou, so getting a 300 might be a complete yawn fest by comparison.
    My suggestion based on several factors would be a pre 89 FZR1000.
    First of all, you're already used to bikes that size, so no drama there,
    Two, it's a Yamaha, you're ok with them it seems,
    Three, they are competitive in pre 89 with little more than a shock, a pipe, a full service & tune & some new tyres & pads.
    Four, when running in a period class, you no longer have to update your bike every so often, as it's locked in at 1989, so you can spend your spare cash on bling, a nicer tow vehicle, beer etc.
    Five, it's a very popular class, & run at most events with a great bunch of guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    I'm surprised people are making suggestions about What to buy without knowing wether you're 50kg or 150kg.
    Clearly you're pretty at home on a thou, so getting a 300 might be a complete yawn fest by comparison.
    My suggestion based on several factors would be a pre 89 FZR1000.
    First of all, you're already used to bikes that size, so no drama there,
    Two, it's a Yamaha, you're ok with them it seems,
    Three, they are competitive in pre 89 with little more than a shock, a pipe, a full service & tune & some new tyres & pads.
    Four, when running in a period class, you no longer have to update your bike every so often, as it's locked in at 1989, so you can spend your spare cash on bling, a nicer tow vehicle, beer etc.
    Five, it's a very popular class, & run at most events with a great bunch of guys.
    I think down here its run with clubmans at MCI , Cams have a seperate class for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Clearly you're pretty at home on a thou, so getting a 300 might be a complete yawn fest by comparison.
    ask Dennis Charlett, superbike one season then a 390 ktm the next,

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    ask Dennis Charlett, superbike one season then a 390 ktm the next,
    He's not 150kg though, so would not find it a yawn fest.

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    Come to a meeting, there is one next weekend at Ruapuna, if you ask around you could get a ride on a ninja in training, get your arse kicked by some 14 year olds, Buckets RGs and Ninjas run in the same class. If you are on a budget this is the place to start, most of the older guys dont move up from here, the competition is plenty good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yow Ling View Post
    Come to a meeting, there is one next weekend at Ruapuna, if you ask around you could get a ride on a ninja in training, get your arse kicked by some 14 year olds, Buckets RGs and Ninjas run in the same class. If you are on a budget this is the place to start, most of the older guys dont move up from here, the competition is plenty good
    Herein lies another problem, the social side, which , by time, is 90 percent of a race meeting. Do you want to hang with a bunch of spoilt children with attitude that think they are fast because they can beat an old man, or a bunch of good old boys that pay for their own racing that know how to share their expierence & stuff & enjoy a beer & a good yarn afterwards.
    For fucks sake don't go the bucket route, unless you're a social misfit weirdo that's scared of real bikes. Sorry, the bucket guys were expecting that from me, & I didn't want to disappoint them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Herein lies another problem, the social side, which , by time, is 90 percent of a race meeting. Do you want to hang with a bunch of spoilt children with attitude that think they are fast because they can beat an old man, or a bunch of good old boys that pay for their own racing that know how to share their expierence & stuff & enjoy a beer & a good yarn afterwards.
    For fucks sake don't go the bucket route, unless you're a social misfit weirdo that's scared of real bikes. Sorry, the bucket guys were expecting that from me, & I didn't want to disappoint them.
    I can assure you that the SI scene has little in common with the NI bucket scene you're familiar with.
    Bunch of mainly nice guys, many of whom run bikes in the classes already mentioned. Because all bucket racing down here is on the big tracks they're socialising with all the other classes at every meeting....

    I stick by the lightweight production recommendation. It'll teach more about racecraft than running at your own speed in pre 89. And in the last 5 seasons i've seen 3 guys buy FZR1000's, come out a few times and either fall off or get disheartened when they realise the bike is better than they are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Herein lies another problem, the social side, which , by time, is 90 percent of a race meeting. Do you want to hang with a bunch of spoilt children with attitude that think they are fast because they can beat an old man, or a bunch of good old boys that pay for their own racing that know how to share their expierence & stuff & enjoy a beer & a good yarn afterwards.
    For fucks sake don't go the bucket route, unless you're a social misfit weirdo that's scared of real bikes. Sorry, the bucket guys were expecting that from me, & I didn't want to disappoint them.

    ...tongue in cheek, maybe?...the Bucket, Development or CAMS Junior Clubman classes here in Chch, Canterbury, SI is a little top heavy in older, experienced very clever and socially apt souls really and many the youthful types are really fantastic kids who bring a lot of life and skill to our on and off track parties...

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    ...maybe 'socially apt', is a bit of an oxymoron when it comes to motorcycle racers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...maybe 'socially apt', is a bit of an oxymoron when it comes to motorcycle racers...
    The chch bucket scene is pretty social. Thats why I wanted in truth be told, that and it is cheaper to buy a competitive bike capable of running at the front than in pre '89. I do have a nc30 in the shed which I am planning to run in pre 89, but for now I look to buckets to teach me racecraft and corner speed




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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Herein lies another problem, the social side, which , by time, is 90 percent of a race meeting. Do you want to hang with a bunch of spoilt children with attitude that think they are fast because they can beat an old man, or a bunch of good old boys that pay for their own racing that know how to share their expierence & stuff & enjoy a beer & a good yarn afterwards.
    For fucks sake don't go the bucket route, unless you're a social misfit weirdo that's scared of real bikes. Sorry, the bucket guys were expecting that from me, & I didn't want to disappoint them.
    I dunno how much of what the bucket fags say is taking the piss, but I've heard it's quite clear down south that it's mostly tongue in cheek.

    I've pissed nearly all of them off (north and south) with my trolling at one point or another, but the sick cunts continue to offer help. A couple obviously can't stand me which isn't exactly rare, so it can't be all bad.

    Still wouldn't race them in earnest if ya paid me...but no one likes losing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Autech View Post
    I do have a nc30 in the shed which I am planning to run in pre 89, but for now I look to buckets to teach me racecraft and corner speed




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    Part it out. Uncompetitive in any class these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellipsis View Post
    ...tongue in cheek, maybe?...
    No, he's just a cunt (except for when he's going out of his way to help me sort my van while I am stuck in foreign lands)
    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    A couple obviously can't stand me
    To be fair that's not just confined to the guys from the bucket class
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    Quote Originally Posted by sidecar bob View Post
    Herein lies bunch of good old boys that pay for their own racing that know how to share their expierence & stuff & enjoy a beer & a good yarn afterwards.
    Yeah it was good catching up at HD and talking about my lawn mower purchase.

    I started off with Buckets and after getting my arse kicked by above 14 year olds got my classic bike together and have been doing it for 4 years.

    Fortunately there are not too many 14 year olds who can spring 6K for a TT gearbox, 4K for a set of crankcases and so on. ( that's Nortons, I run a BMW with a $250 Trade Me engine)
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    aha plenty of opinions I see!

    CLubmans had been something I had thought about, but didnt know what the rules etc were.

    Im not keen in buckets, and Im most familiar with sports bikes 600-1000cc, so, if there was a class where I could go out and run something like that it would probably be my preference. Im not concerned about whether I come first by a mile, or last by a lap, Im more interested in giving it a nudge, having FUN, and learning to go faster (than myself, rather than faster than anyone else)

    Ive seen some fairly cheap gsxr / early R1 and ZX10's, as well as a few cheap R6's that I thought would make great trackbikes, but the question I guess is whether there is a decent class I can ride my preferred kind of bike in. Do Cams has classes that might accommodate something like this?

    It sounds like some have a fairly dim view of clubmans - which I guess I will have to consider. Im not adverse to getting some coaching either - and I did receive a PM about this fro someone yesterday with a recommendation.

    Since I live in Dunedin, Id prefer to be able to race at Levels and teretonga, for the sake of travel distance, and the fact that Ive done trackdays at both, though I would love to ride ruapuna if / when I get the chance too.

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