Death by Cheesecutter, again?

[eldog]

Stable fracture that will heal with time.....just makes some sitting or lying positions uncomfortable

Friend of mine spend 6 months on his back (broken back-is what he called it)
Said it was the worst time, made sure I didn't do the same thing. Miss that bastard....

you have a great outlook, thanks for sharing

[skippa1]

Friend of mine spend 6 months on his back (broken back-is what he called it)
Said it was the worst time, made sure I didn't do the same thing. Miss that bastard....

Yeah its not fun but a fucken sight better than being in a pine box 6' under

[Ocean1]

I think Moi's post following yours answers a lot of those questions, but the key point from his second link I took away is that some "... governments have either ceased installation or banned the barriers due to political pressure from lobby groups. But, there is no scientific research to show flexible barriers cause more deaths and serious injuries for motorcyclists. Swedish studies have shown there is actually a 40 – 50% reduction in risk of being killed for motorcyclists with wire rope safety barriers.".

Oh I’m prepared to believe that the relative safety of different stuff around our roads is really really counter-intuitive, and not for the layman to believably comment on.

But when you see someone supplying partial data sets to demonstrate that sharp, solid steel posts mounted perpendicular to traffic flow are safer for motorcyclists than pretty much anything at all running parallel to traffic flow then you’re seeing someone being economical with the truth. Seriously.

Because those 260 motorcyclists would have otherwise hit something else (or oncoming traffic) and died anyhoo?

When was the last time you saw oncoming traffic arriving from behind roadside obstructions?

If I’ve overshot my line on a right hander due to fuckwittedness, or a dodgy patch of road surface then the one thing that will give me the very best chance of recovering from that is more room. Ideally more room of a bituminous nature, but if it has to be gravel or grass I’ll take it, and chances are I’ll make that work.

The one thing that’ll fuck that second chance right up is a fucking 4”x4” post holding up a sign saying: >

Because other motorcyclists hit a barrier, were OK, got up and rode away, with noone really being the wiser?.

Well I’m prepared to believe that whoever believes that really isn’t any the wiser.

Because they saved hundreds, or thousands, of cager's lives?

Entirely aside from the fact an awful lot of roadside barriers seem to be protecting motorists from nice green flat fields it’s also true that other types of barriers would have saved pretty much exactly the same number of cagers without representing a serious risk to motorcyclists.

[trufflebutter]

Leave acting like a fuckwit out of the equation for now, what probable causes will see a motorcyclist collide with a Wire Rope Barrier?

A little ironic choice of words, i lost my right leg and fractured my back 10 weeks ago when i got bowled off my bike by a careless driver.....

you cant seriously ask anyone to believe that you cant think of any number of influencing factors when it comes to causes or outcomes of collisions?

Correct, I was not implying what you suggest....
I was asking for anyone what probable causes will see a motorcyclist collide with a Wire Rope Barrier. Not a car/truck/tree/pole etc. You were not the only one that failed to pick up on that. I did not think it was a difficult question.

[skippa1]

Correct, I was not implying what you suggest....
I was asking for anyone what probable causes will see a motorcyclist collide with a Wire Rope Barrier. Not a car/truck/tree/pole etc. You were not the only one that failed to pick up on that. I did not think it was a difficult question.

Are you on drugs?

[swbarnett]

Tar bleed sucks, but it's not unexpected most of the time.

Good tyres can virtually eliminate the need to worry about it. Gotta love those PR4s.

I don't remember ever having encountered loose chip without warning.

Where you been hiding? I've come across that in about half a dozen spots in the past few months. Maybe it's just the upper north island that suffers from this?

I'm beginning to wonder how many bikers actually enjoy riding as much as I do. Half you cunts seem to just whinge and moan about how bad you've got it.

Harden the fuck up, pussies.

Riding keeps me sane. Quick jaunt down to Gisborne over the weekend and all the stress just melted away.

[swbarnett]

How about just teaching riders to fucken ride. That'd sort out the high motorcycle accident areas.

If it were that simple they'd just teach drivers to drive as well and we'd all stay on our own side of the fucken road.

[Big Dog]

Got em all now, lefty, popeye, hoppy, pegleg......

At least there is a chance we will find out just how busy a one legged man is during an arse kicking contest.


Edit: dammit, turn one more page and Drew beat me to it.
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[James Deuce]

Tar bleed sucks, but it's not unexpected most of the time.

I don't remember ever having encountered loose chip without warning.

I'm beginning to wonder how many bikers actually enjoy riding as much as I do. Half you cunts seem to just whinge and moan about how bad you've got it.

Harden the fuck up, pussies.

Pretty bad over my way at the moment. They've rooted a couple of my favourite corners properly and can't seem to fix one of them. Subsequent repairs have actually made the problem worse, so a sign posted 35kph corner that was an easy 70 kph is now tiptoe in/skate out. The good thing is I'm relearning how to hold a slide I guess. The side road that I use a bit that intersects with that corner, is about 50m of loose gravel through a couple of corners that is dragged off that corner by loose gravel. The bottom of the water tower road was shit for about three weeks after resealing until normal use swept it. The road that links Ngamu road and the Gladstone road has been resealed, but it's usgae is so low that they've basically turned it into a gravel road. The Bicycle club that is based down that road is having a right old whinge and I don't blame them.

[James Deuce]

Stable fracture that will heal with time.....just makes some sitting or lying positions uncomfortable

Broke 4 vertebrae like that. Have to say that the uncomfortable bit didn't really go away for me, but your inspirational attitude is spot on. No point crying into your warm milk .

[James Deuce]

Going out on a limb here but I would suggest that stupidity is rampant both on and off the road as you have others have recently demonstrated throughout this forum.

I wonder if cassina has changed her login ID.

Didn't get the answer you wanted; kept making ad hominem attacks.

WRBs are not the biggest issue on the road. Whinging about them makes the motorcycling "collective" (which doesn't exist) look stupid and entitled.

[Drew]

If it were that simple they'd just teach drivers to drive as well and we'd all stay on our own side of the fucken road.

It is that simple. Yes, drivers should be formally trained as well.

The masses will likely bitch about cost...fuck 'em. Driving/riding is not a God given right.

[trufflebutter]

I wonder if cassina has changed her login ID.

Didn't get the answer you wanted; kept making ad hominem attacks.

WRBs are not the biggest issue on the road. Whinging about them makes the motorcycling "collective" (which doesn't exist) look stupid and entitled.

Where have I whinged about them? I firmly believe that though they have the potential to maim/kill, so do many other factors of riding a motorbike on the road.

[Drew]

Where have I whinged about them? I firmly believe that, though they have the potential to maim/kill, so do many other factors of riding a motorbike on the road.

But you think someone has to cite specific examples in order to make a very obvious point?

You're an idiot.

[swbarnett]

It is that simple. Yes, drivers should be formally trained as well.

"You can lead a horse to water..."

It would certainly be a good start though.