TL1000R 5th Gear

[Driftmonkey]

Riding along on motorway, 5th gear, indicate right to pass, start giving it some throttle, slips out of 5th, locks up rear wheel and makes loud noises until the bike died by itself. Pushed it to side of motorway, couldn't push it forward, even with clutch in, gave me false neutrals. Managed to find second gear and rode it along the side of motorway for a minute and it locked up the rear wheel. I've pulled it apart and have given the detent arm and spring a look (both in good condition), clutch packs (within spec), which leaves me thinking the worst... 5th gears floating around in the gearbox...?

I've managed to get it to select each gear fine sucessfully without failing but when i try shift to 5th it just doesn't find anything there, won't let me up past 5th into 6th either.

Haven't ridden it since it did this on the motorway, don't plan on riding it until it's 100% sorted... Am I right in thinking its the 5th gear that's gone walk abouts or could it be something else? Cheers.

[Driftmonkey]

1998 TL1000R, 66,000kms, new oil & filter, 10w40, no metal in the oil when I dropped it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

1998 TL1000R, 66,000kms, new oil & filter, 10w40, no metal in the oil when I dropped it.

Has the bike been down on the left side? If so, and the shift shaft takes a big knock, can fuck the shift forks.

[Driftmonkey]

Has the bike been down on the left side? If so, and the shift shaft takes a big knock, can fuck the shift forks.

It's got grazes so I'd imagine it has been lowsided at some point. That's still a case of dropping engine, splitting and repairing isn't it?

[Crasherfromwayback]

It's got grazes so I'd imagine it has been lowsided at some point. That's still a case of dropping engine, splitting and repairing isn't it?

Sure is. But that shouldn't lock the wheel though...so am wondering just what's going on. Especially as no metallic bits came out in the oil...

[Grumph]

Possibly a broken layshaft. if the bits aligned and were held in alignment by a gear you may have been able to move in 2nd as you did.
As soon as they move out of alignment, no selection...
It's pull out and strip whichever way it's gone.

[Driftmonkey]

Was hoping for "no no, just tap it with a hammer and she's okay!"

Oh well... I'm in no position to be fixing it at the moment as I've got too much on my plate.. Have also heard that you need to rebuild both engine and gearbox as they're vertically split. Anyone want a cheap TL1000R?

[nodrog:Me]

Was hoping for "no no, just tap it with a hammer and she's okay!"

Oh well... I'm in no position to be fixing it at the moment as I've got too much on my plate.. Have also heard that you need to rebuild both engine and gearbox as they're vertically split. Anyone want a cheap TL1000R?

I'll give you $500

[Driftmonkey]

I'll give you $500

x5 and I'd be happy.. new tires, pads, wof, reg, etc etc.

[Big Dog]

x5 and I'd be happy.. new tires, pads, wof, reg, etc etc.

Not new any more of they were fitted before you lost 5 th.

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[Big Dog]

Trouble with "I'll get around to it one day" bikes is you seldom do.
If you do you find leaving it parked has rooted things you wouldn't consider.


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[skippa1]

Riding along on motorway, 5th gear, indicate right to pass, start giving it some throttle, slips out of 5th, locks up rear wheel .

x5 and I'd be happy.. new tires,

Might have a flat spot on the rear one

[Driftmonkey]

Trouble with "I'll get around to it one day" bikes is you seldom do.
If you do you find leaving it parked has rooted things you wouldn't consider.


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My sanity?

Yep, it's just going to be sold as is. Hopefully someone who has more time, money and space than I do picks it up and brings it back up to scratch.

[TLDV8]

If the wheel locked up it might very well be shift fork related (initially)

It can be hard to pinpoint if the bike has the engine side covers installed, removing the clutch side inner disturbs the water pump seal which can lead to other drama's.
With the cover off there are windows in the engine case that would allow you to look into the sump.

If you haven't already the rear wheel could be elevated so the transmission can be rotated by the wheel, the clutch plates would most likely need removal to isolate the clutch hub drive gear from the crankshaft drive gear.
With that you could rotate and select gears either way via the wheel or clutch input shaft.
That might also identify any noises in neutral.

A pity I have a few complete low mileage TL1000R clusters, selector forks,drums etc but they are in my (ALK) lock up with my two TL1000S's.

[TLDV8]

The selector mechanism is in the area of the front sprocket, the return spring can break but you would feel that at the shift lever.
It would take some effort to damage that area being well tucked away, it wouldn't hurt to take a look if not done already to remove that from the check list even if a long shot.