Professionalism

**russd7** · 10th May 2016, 19:54

whats all this about passing and failing, i didn't think that was done anymore as that could make some feel inferior. don't ya just get a certificate for participating (read: showing up).

**rambaldi** · 10th May 2016, 20:01

Originally Posted by Swoop

Meaning that the pass rate isn't fixed.

It might be that pass rate is fixed but pass requirements aren't (see school-c)

**Moi** · 10th May 2016, 20:06

Is the problem the failing of the test or how the student perceives what happened after?

**BuzzardNZ** · 10th May 2016, 20:08

Originally Posted by Moi

Is the problem the failing of the test or how the student perceives what happened after?

Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me.

**RDJ** · 10th May 2016, 20:28

Originally Posted by rambaldi

It might be that pass rate is fixed but pass requirements aren't (see school-c)

Rambaldi is correct. Raw exam scores are converted to pass scores. A raw score is a score without any adjustment or transformation e.g. the number of questions answered correctly. The raw score is then scaled against a standard such that scores for all candidates are on a consistent scale. Say a yearly test has Exams, and one Year is more difficult than the next such that a score of 65% on Exam Year 2015 is equivalent to a score of 75% on Exam Year 2016. Then the scores (marks) on both Exams are converted to a scale so that these two exams have comparable results / scores. The US SATs are the best-known scaled exams - scaled so so they are equivalent over successive years even when the exam difficulty, and the raw scores, may vary.

**buggerit** · 10th May 2016, 20:37

a well, some of us were not built for pole dancing, build a bridge

**Moi** · 10th May 2016, 20:42

Originally Posted by BuzzardNZ

Sounds like a case of sour grapes to me.

If this situation is in an academic institution, then someone may face a disciplinary action.

If this is in a commercial setting then what recourse does the person have?

If the person concerned perceives they have been publicly ridiculed what can they do?

The question for you - if you were that person would you enjoy being publicly ridiculed?

**Madness** · 10th May 2016, 20:50

I failed a Dale Carnegie course last year. There was a bit more than a point in it, mind.

**BuzzardNZ** · 10th May 2016, 20:51

Originally Posted by Moi

If this situation is in an academic institution, then someone may face a disciplinary action.

If this is in a commercial setting then what recourse does the person have?

If the person concerned perceives they have been publicly ridiculed what can they do?

The question for you - if you were that person would you enjoy being publicly ridiculed?

Of course not, but from Gremlins post, seems he/she wasn't named.

Long story short, he/she failed ( doesn't really matter if it was by 1 point or 50 , a fail is still a fail )

Put it down to experience and have another crack at it ( or not ).

Originally Posted by Gremlin

Well I probably know what you're talking about. The person wasn't identified in any way (except for the incident itself being identifiable to the person that failed) and wasn't making fun of the person and it wasn't the point of the post either (it was about the one point difference in failing or passing and the perspective of that)

I'm probably biased as I know the tutor, they have a heart of gold and definitely don't make fun of their clients.

I'm reasonably certain most see the humour in some situations they encounter during work...

edit: Do you know that it was instruction and a test? Might have just been a test and no reflection on their instruction... but hey, who cares about details?

**nzspokes** · 10th May 2016, 20:53

Originally Posted by Moi

The question for you - if you were that person would you enjoy being publicly ridiculed?

Nobody was ridiculed.

**Maha** · 10th May 2016, 21:10

Seems the post in question has been deleted, probably a smart move. The comments that followed the first post were directed at the person's failed attempt.