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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Sure that's not a yearly requirement?
    Nah, that's lab type spaces (hostile environments) or regular flex cord, fixed cord in offices is 5 years (just don't mention the standy-sit desks...

    Mind you, if the tester is greeted with hostility, he may mark office gear 1 year accordingly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    Nah, that's lab type spaces (hostile environments) or regular flex cord, fixed cord in offices is 5 years (just don't mention the standy-sit desks...

    Mind you, if the tester is greeted with hostility, he may mark office gear 1 year accordingly
    Sit Stand Desks..... not just one lead but potentially 3....kerfeckingching, but as you say only every 5 years.

    Monitors are two as the lead detaches.
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    Sit Stand Desks..... not just one lead but potentially 3....kerfeckingching, but as you say only every 5 years.

    Monitors are two as the lead detaches.
    Most have a multi-board under them, so only the one flexes.

    All our monitor's and PC's and other detachable leads are rated for 5, not heard of two years for them...

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    Yeah, the standy desk, or the school projector that gets wheeled from class to class, or the kettle with the lead attached... all meant to be a year because of the movement during normal use.
    On the other hand the big photocopier in the corner that never moves doesn't need checking at all.
    But they're all just recommended minimum standards, the owner or whoever is "responsible" for the equipment can extend or reduce the period if they want.
    For example it would be reasonable to never test any plugpack charger, but equally reasonable to check anything owned by a bricklayer every 5 minutes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graystone View Post
    Most have a multi-board under them, so only the one flexes.

    All our monitor's and PC's and other detachable leads are rated for 5, not heard of two years for them...
    there is no law for these, it is only a recommendation. the only industries that have to test and tag by law are building and construction and early childhood centres and aged care and they have to test every 3 months.
    the way i test is to look at the likely hood of cords being moved or plugged in or out of sockets so your average computer station is ok at 5 yrs but your kitchen appliances would be 6 monthly and anything that is used out side regularly would be 3 monthly.
    when i check, if an appliance is damaged i will fail it, if a cord has been repaired with insulation tape, i will fail it. and you would be surprised by how many extension cords fail on faulty earth return, the very thing that may save ya life.
    call it a rort all you like but proper test and tagging will pick up stuff you dont see, for example, faulty insulation, RCD that arent working properly etc,
    test and tag is just like a WOF, it can only tell you an appliance is safe at the time it is tested.
    those that don't want to pay for some one to come and test and tag can go and become certified themselves and buy a machine to do their own, its not hard and its not rocket science.

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    i was told by someone at Hazzardco that you no longer have to tag your gear

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    RCD's are not compulsory in commercial buildings which is odd as staff spend more them there than at home.

    After spending over 3k on Test and Tagging they found a faulty laptop power supply.
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimO View Post
    i was told by someone at Hazzardco that you no longer have to tag your gear
    only industries that legally have to test and tag is building and construction, early child hood, aged care. but as a PCBU if someone does get hurt or killed from electrocution and you haven't had your electrical gear checked by a competent person then most likely it will be viewed that you have not done everything reasonably practicable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    RCD's are not compulsory in commercial buildings which is odd as staff spend more them there than at home.

    After spending over 3k on Test and Tagging they found a faulty laptop power supply.
    why not get trained and purchase a machine and do it yourself?

    i do ours for the company i work for and have found several extension cords with broken earth wires as well as a faulty rcd and a drill with stuffed insulation. the extension cords and the drill were not obvious until pulled apart. to me that was enough to convince it is worth it as it was all gear i used regularly.

    your faulty laptop supply could also have been a fire hazard and if it had caused a fire then that also becomes a H&S issue by putting people in danger, i would say it was 3 grand well spent but again, look at doing it in house, a lot of companies are raping the system and charging exorbitant amounts to test and tag

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honest Andy View Post
    For example it would be reasonable to never test any plugpack charger, but equally reasonable to check anything owned by a bricklayer every 5 minutes...
    Bricklayers aren't the worst by a long shot. Anything in an electrician's tool kit or workshop is suspect IMO. Too casual....

    I worked for an electrical contractor and any time I was asked to use the firm's gear or gear owned by staff, I checked it.
    And usually ended up fixing it - properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    I worked for an electrical contractor and any time I was asked to use the firm's gear or gear owned by staff, I checked it.
    And usually ended up fixing it - properly.
    Hope you then let him tag it for you, you know it's not really safe until it's tagged...
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