Final day of the 2016 TT races

[actungbaby]

Went to a film evening around 1970 where Tommy McCleary showed film of his trip to the TT.
He reckoned the level he saw then wasn't that good - he thought 3 or 4 ChCh riders would be competitive there.

Looking back, it's lucky I didn't believe him....

The same Tommy that was Tommys yamaha down st asphs street. ?

[actungbaby]

...what the fuck, are you on about?...

His dad was joey dunlops brother robert both had accidents took there lives not at the isle of man tt though

[actungbaby]

Gotta say Doppelganger's impressions are similar to mine. I've only seen a few interviews with MD (3?) but in each one there are hints that he's an agro bugger.

Certainly Hutchinson was unhappy with Dunlop's carry-on - and seemingly was justified because he has now received the apology he suggested was due.

yeah grumpy dude isint he never seems to smile much

[Moise]

actually the total comeptitor death rate is around 8000, some have died at the event and given that it's been going since 1907 the others have died of old age.....

Thanks for that ...

[Moise]

Gotta say Doppelganger's impressions are similar to mine. I've only seen a few interviews with MD (3?) but in each one there are hints that he's an agro bugger.

Certainly Hutchinson was unhappy with Dunlop's carry-on - and seemingly was justified because he has now received the apology he suggested was due.

Hutchy was also grumpy because he reckoned that MD had a better engine. Hutchy used a Superstock engine in the Senior because he found his Superbike engine too hard to ride.

[Duke girl]

When Dunlop broke the lap record in race 1, Dunlops team had ran out of engines, they had purchased an engine from Mar Train Yamaha, which they put in but was built and in spec for last year but not this year, the guy that built the engine was not with the team this year, so no one knew, big arguments eventuated between the teams, and Dunlop was disqualified, something to do with the valve shims we hear, so don't no who's the biggest dick certainly not Hutchy nice bloke, different from Dunlop,that's what we were told on the Island anyway.

[Moise]

Does that record stand then if he was DQ'd?

[Black Knight]

The same Tommy that was Tommys yamaha down st asphs street. ?

There was Tom senior-big guy,would have been in his 50's plus in the early 60's and there is Tom junior (Tommy) tall skinny bugger,mid 20's in the early 60's

[Cosmik de Bris]

When Dunlop broke the lap record in race 1, Dunlops team had ran out of engines, they had purchased an engine from Mar Train Yamaha, which they put in but was built and in spec for last year but not this year, the guy that built the engine was not with the team this year, so no one knew, big arguments eventuated between the teams, and Dunlop was disqualified, something to do with the valve shims we hear, so don't no who's the biggest dick certainly not Hutchy nice bloke, different from Dunlop,that's what we were told on the Island anyway.

It wasn't the first race that he was disqualified from it was the Supersport race, the engine they bought had plated cam cups I think. The engine had been built a couple of years earlier when the rules were different, apparently.

[jellywrestler]

When Dunlop broke the lap record in race 1, Dunlops team had ran out of engines, they had purchased an engine from Mar Train Yamaha, which they put in but was built and in spec for last year but not this year, the guy that built the engine was not with the team this year, so no one knew, big arguments eventuated between the teams, and Dunlop was disqualified, something to do with the valve shims we hear, so don't no who's the biggest dick certainly not Hutchy nice bloke, different from Dunlop,that's what we were told on the Island anyway.

wrong, it was rebuilt this year for their team, from a motor that was legal two years ago. the cam buckets were coated, this was leagl two years ago but as it wasn't a wearble part they kept them, most other shit was replaced and someone didn't check their eligibility.

[Cosmik de Bris]

There was Tom senior-big guy,would have been in his 50's plus in the early 60's and there is Tom junior (Tommy) tall skinny bugger,mid 20's in the early 60's

Yes, they were both road racers and NZ champions in their day. Young Tommy's brother Kevin also had a bike shop, corner of St Asaph and Durham maybe? I think Tommy's sold Suzuki but I'm not too sure. The shop used to be Bob Burns' I think, he and his son Dave were also big in the local scene.

[Grumph]

There was Tom senior-big guy,would have been in his 50's plus in the early 60's and there is Tom junior (Tommy) tall skinny bugger,mid 20's in the early 60's

Yes, they were both road racers and NZ champions in their day. Young Tommy's brother Kevin also had a bike shop, corner of St Asaph and Durham maybe? I think Tommy's sold Suzuki but I'm not too sure. The shop used to be Bob Burns' I think, he and his son Dave were also big in the local scene.

Tom senior was in his mid/late 60's around 1970. Tom junior would have been late/mid 40's at that time. He'd retired from racing around 1967. He went to have another look at the IOM and as the McCleary family did, he took an 8mm movie camera. From memory the one time he rode in the IOM he fell off early on and was out for the week. Old Tom never roadraced. He was very well known on the grasstracks pre war.
Tommy (jnr) took over Bob Burns shop, yes, went through several locations and went Suzuki-yamaha-Suzuki several times. Kevin stayed with old Tom at McCleary motors.
Tommy's son Bob has the Rangiora yamaha shop.
Clear ?

[Doppleganger]

...what the fuck, are you on about?...

You wana hear the shit he has been talking and not just at the TT, he's been doing it for years around the road racing series.

[pritch]

The shop used to be Bob Burns' I think, he and his son Dave were also big in the local scene.

That may be damning with faint praise? I'd have thought Burns rated fairly large on the world scene.

[actungbaby]

There was Tom senior-big guy,would have been in his 50's plus in the early 60's and there is Tom junior (Tommy) tall skinny bugger,mid 20's in the early 60's

Thanks for the info i used to ride home from mates and stop at all hours the morning look at the bikes ;-)