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    NZ built racing specials

    IE
    Bert Munro, Burt Munro.
    Mo Haley,
    John Britten.
    BSL500,
    Dick Huurdeman
    Steve Roberts
    Ken Mcintosh
    Scott Griffith (Team GPR) multi talented frame builder and tuner with atrocious spelling
    Sike Sinclair TR500 Suzuki t500 specials
    Brook Henry Kiwi born and bred, AKA Vee Two engineering Perth
    Alister Sabiston
    George Begg -
    Stu Whyte - ChCh based. Early BEARS member and the builder of a number of TT2 Ducati replica frames.
    Jim Cashman - Probably NZ's first really successful 2 stroke tuner. Then his masterpiece the C3 350 triple based on Suzuki 380 bits won the support class of the Marlbro series beating the reigning 350 world champ in the process
    Bruce Roberts - ChCh based, dirt bike frames. mainly Metisse copies.
    Howard Anderson - Chch based, continuation of the Mo Haley duplex frames for BSA etc
    Fred McLean and Peter Pinion AKA Frepin
    SeanRNZAF aka Nardo
    dick leppard
    john blaymires
    steve raffils
    ken campbell
    Westoby
    Greg Thomas AKA Santa
    Colin Lyster - Nelson based but long history of frame building in the UK. Believed to have built G50 frames here plus a known batch of Honda frames shortly before his death.
    Trevor Tolhurst - ChCh based fabricator of drag cars who built a batch of Norton featherbed frames as well as at least one sidecar chassis.
    Ray Breingan - Hawkes Bay. Long history of frame building in the UK incl doing the majority of the Drixton Aermacchi frames for Syd Lawton. Known to have built several frames back here in NZ.
    Kim Newcombe http://www.odd-bike.com/2013/04/koni...-underdog.html
    Dickie Lawton

    Feel free to add to the list of names or add what pictures reminiscences and articles you may have.
    Or fix my spelling
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    NOT to forget........ Kim Newcome....
    not really NZ built..but by a NZer... close enough...

    http://www.odd-bike.com/2013/04/koni...-underdog.html




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    90% of all Harleys built are still on the road... The other 10% made it back home...
    Ducati... Makeing riders into mechaincs since 1964...

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    Quote Originally Posted by husaberg View Post
    IE
    Bert Monroe,
    Mo Haley,
    John Britten.
    BSL500,
    Dick Huurdeman
    Steve Roberts
    Ken Macintosh
    Brook Henry
    Alister Sabiston


    Feel free to add to the list of names or add what pictures reminiscences and articles you may have.
    burt munro
    ken mcintosh
    dick leppard self built formula one sidecar and won nz championships with it
    john blaymires self built formula one sidecar and won nz championships with it
    steve raffils recerates original bikes, 8 valve harleys and indians
    ken campbell v8 indian in a four frame

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    George Begg - built a couple of frames for Classics for his own use.

    Bruce Roberts - ChCh based, dirt bike frames. mainly Metisse copies.

    Howard Anderson - Chch based, continuation of the Mo Haley duplex frames for BSA etc Classics.

    Colin Lyster - Nelson based but long history of frame building in the UK. Believed to have built G50 frames here plus a known batch of Honda frames shortly before his death.

    Trevor Tolhurst - ChCh based fabricator of drag cars who built a batch of Norton featherbed frames as well as at least one sidecar chassis.

    Ray Breingan - Hawkes Bay. Long history of frame building in the UK incl doing the majority of the Drixton Aermacchi frames for Syd Lawton. Known to have built several frames back here in NZ.

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    Westoby

    this is Grumph talking BTW.
    the story as I've been told it....Pa Westoby went to the UK in the late 70's. Saw the waddon/EMC Rotax that were being raced.
    Took pics - and maybe did a sly measure up as well. Came home with two Rotax 125 motors - and it would seem a seat/tank unit as well.

    They built two 125's and a spare frame as well. The two sons raced the 125's quite extensively. Some time pre 82 the third frame was turned into
    a bucket with a 100 Yamaha motor. The original motor which the current owner still has uses a piston port water cooled barrel which is believed to
    have been cast from Jim Cashman's patterns for the C3 barrels. Currently a reed valve barrel is fitted.
    For the younger ones - the C3 was a Timaru built 350 three based on Suzuki 380 crank and cases. water cooled barrels of course.
    In the support 350 class of the Marlboro Series Jim Landrebe riding the C3 beat the reigning 350 World Champ, Chas Mortimer.
    Cashman was the first really good NZ based two stroke tuner.

    The last time we spoke to the Westobys they still had the two Rotax 125's tucked away. Lex who had the bucket was finishing off the
    replica motor for the Richard Pearse aircraft which was finished in time to fly for the anniversary of Pearce's flight.

    The problem for the owner of this bucket is just what to do with it....it's such a historic piece of work. Bringing it up to date with 17in wheels etc
    is not really worth doing. I've suggested restoring it nicely and running it at the occasional CAMS meeting.
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    Bert/Burt Munro

    Bert/Burt Monro
    I have plenty of stuff but I will start with this as its a period piece done when Bert was still alive.
    This below is well worth a read
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    Trevor Tolhurst - ChCh based fabricator of drag cars who built a batch of Norton featherbed frames as well as at least one sidecar chassis.
    The sidecar chassis was crap, the orignal idea was to copy Battletruck but somehow stuff got altered and it just didn't work as it should have

    I thought it was his brother who made the Nortons?
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    The sidecar chassis was crap, the orignal idea was to copy Battletruck but somehow stuff got altered and it just didn't work as it should have

    I thought it was his brother who made the Nortons?
    Trev made a couple for his Bro - then got talked into making more as he'd built a jig...Still got it, too.

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    If you're putting a name forward for the list, please give some idea of what they did....
    as in

    Alister Sabiston - ChCh based, built under the "Elsab" label. Took over Russell motors in ChCh. Dirt bikes. Frequently Villiers powered. Landed a batch of I believe 6 Starmaker engines and framed at least 4 of them. I know where one of the most successful is sitting at present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    If you're putting a name forward for the list, please give some idea of what they did....
    as in

    Alister Sabiston - ChCh based, built under the "Elsab" label. Took over Russell motors in ChCh. Dirt bikes. Frequently Villiers powered. Landed a batch of I believe 6 Starmaker engines and framed at least 4 of them. I know where one of the most successful is sitting at present.
    Built road going sidecars as well, wasn't he running the Rangitata Oasis ?
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


    Quote Originally Posted by scracha View Post
    Even BP would shy away from cleaning up a sidecar oil spill.
    Quote Originally Posted by Warren Zevon
    Send Lawyers, guns and money, the shit has hit the fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Built road going sidecars as well, wasn't he running the Rangitata Oasis ?
    Correct - i'd forgotten the Sabiston sidecars. Sold the oasis some time back and retired to Geraldine.

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    Jim Cashman - Timaru/Dunedin based. Probably NZ's first really successful 2 stroke tuner. Yes, I know Dick Lawton did good on the international stage later but Jim's T20 won the NZ title in '68 with Richard Tapper riding. Then his masterpiece the C3 350 triple based on Suzuki 380 bits won the support class of the Marlbro series beating the reigning 350 world champ in the process - Jim Landrebe riding. Jim C learned foundry skills - needed to make the C3 cylinders - while a med student in Dunedin, working part time in a local foundry. Killed in a road accident in France 2012.

    Stu Whyte - ChCh based. Early BEARS member and the builder of a number of TT2 Ducati replica frames. For some years the go - to man for BEARS Ducati racers wanting special bits.

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    More Bert/Bert Monro
    In the first post in this thread is a pic of his Paddlewheel dyno
    Legend has it, no one ever helped him run it twice.
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