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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Guess that was my point, anything Touring is inevitably festooned with features. Fat.

    You can do Sports on a fat bike, Dog knows I've done enough of it, but not very successfully.
    Have to agree.

    Just been reading on how to fit a top box ona SDR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Just been reading on how to fit a top box ona SDR.
    Make sure the underlying structure properly supports it. I learnt that lesson with the 990SM. Broke two subframes (replaced under warranty) because the design was bad. The square section ended in the tail with a plate on top of the two ends (rather than carrying right around).
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Sport Touring is my category. I've not looked anywhere else.
    My definition is: -
    1. Less than 250 kg ready to ride and preferably less than 230 kg.
    2. Comfortable 2 up over long distances.
    3. Grunty and nimble enough so that a track day isn't a complete waste of time
    4. Factory fitted luggage available

    Have owned RF 900, Sprint ST 955, GSX 1250 FA and currently on R1200 GS.
    The GS arrived when I added some gravel capability to the above list and it turns out to be the best handler of the lot. So I think it qualifies as well.
    I may not be as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I always was.

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    I guess a good bench mark would be to look at what the Popo use world wide. They need comfort, protection, luggage, pace and handling.

    I've seen some eye watering vids of the boys in blue at pace.

    Having said all that, I was shocked to see an R1 in Police regalia in Scotland a few years ago so I could be talking cobblers. Again.
    It was on a motorway and they had Porsche's, too.
    Manopausal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    ST and Concurs are more straight tourers? Not much sporty about them
    Quote Originally Posted by KoroJ View Post
    ST's have been feeling pretty sporty and toury for me for over 200,000 Km. They certainly don't feel like 300Kg+ when they're moving and with practice, one can fling them around quite nicely at walking speed.
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    And John would know this first hand, check out that lean angle !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia01 View Post
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    And John would know this first hand, check out that lean angle !!
    Cool. I will remember that if I need to tour or go fast in a carpark.

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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    Still thinking the GSX1250fa is a good option with some mods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by insomnia01 View Post

    And John would know this first hand, check out that lean angle !!
    I watched an ST wipes the arse of a Ducati going down the western side of the Paekok hill a few years back. It went passed it and the gap continued to widen from my vantage point at the look out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Still thinking the GSX1250fa is a good option with some mods.

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    Yeah ... the bandits and the TNABs are probably the best bet - or maybe a Honda Hornet ... people I know who have them love them ..

    Use different brake rotors (I have Waves) and braided lines ... upgrade the suspension ...


    And while we're arguing about what makes a sport bike or a sport tourers .. in the old days sports bikes had clip-ons and what we called "rear sets" .. but rear sets are so standard now ... compared to where the pegs used to be

    Cafe Racers were made by first putting on clip-ons and rear sets .. then maybe fiddling with the card and changing the headers and cans ...

    So a sports/tourer would have higher bars .. and foot-pegs not so rear set ... and possibly a detuned engine .. but engines are built for purpose now, rather than the old days when there was a standard engine, hotted up for racing .. Say like a Triumph Bonneville and a Triumph Thunderbird (Meridan, not Hinckley ...) . and then a Thurxton version ...


    engines are now built for sports tourers, so they are hardly "detuned" even though they don't generate the speed of a sports engine .. say a GSXR compared to a GSF1250S or a GSX1250SA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Yeah ... the bandits and the TNABs are probably the best bet - or maybe a Honda Hornet ... people I know who have them love them ..
    Hornet is a wee bit naked for extended touring, unless you're putting a big screen on it or something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Yeah ... the bandits and the TNABs are probably the best bet - or maybe a Honda Hornet ... people I know who have them love them ..

    Use different brake rotors (I have Waves) and braided lines ... upgrade the suspension ...


    And while we're arguing about what makes a sport bike or a sport tourers .. in the old days sports bikes had clip-ons and what we called "rear sets" .. but rear sets are so standard now ... compared to where the pegs used to be

    Cafe Racers were made by first putting on clip-ons and rear sets .. then maybe fiddling with the card and changing the headers and cans ...

    So a sports/tourer would have higher bars .. and foot-pegs not so rear set ... and possibly a detuned engine .. but engines are built for purpose now, rather than the old days when there was a standard engine, hotted up for racing .. Say like a Triumph Bonneville and a Triumph Thunderbird (Meridan, not Hinckley ...) . and then a Thurxton version ...


    engines are now built for sports tourers, so they are hardly "detuned" even though they don't generate the speed of a sports engine .. say a GSXR compared to a GSF1250S or a GSX1250SA
    A basic tune the 1250 has about 30% more torque than a Hornet which will show a lot on the road. Its pretty close to the Busa and Bking. The FA with a fairing and a little work on the suspension and you have a winner I reckon.
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    This is a stage 2 Holeshot kit fitted to a 1250. That torque curve would be nice on the road.

    Chuck a set of the Holeshot headers on and you have more torque than a Bking and 129hp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    This is a stage 2 Holeshot kit fitted to a 1250. That torque curve would be nice on the road.

    Chuck a set of the Holeshot headers on and you have more torque than a Bking and 129hp.
    Stop being a tire kicker and buy one - the bikes are on sale presently - the difference will upgrade your suspension then it's only a bit of coin to suit bags, bars etc that you desire.

    You'll be on the road for f-all. Maybe that's why is a 1250FA bawahahahahhahaha

    Bang for buck it's a winner.

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...1023647177.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Stop being a tire kicker and buy one - the bikes are on sale presently - the difference will upgrade your suspension then it's only a bit of coin to suit bags, bars etc that you desire.

    You'll be on the road for f-all. Maybe that's why is a 1250FA bawahahahahhahaha

    Bang for buck it's a winner.

    http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...1023647177.htm
    And again, Im not buying now. Just talking shit about bikes, you know this being a bike website and all......
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    And again, Im not buying now. Just talking shit about bikes, you know this being a bike website and all......
    I tried that with porn sites - hey it's OK dear I'm just looking .............. she did not understand.

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