Squared-off tires, or is it tyres?

**onearmedbandit** · 3rd November 2016, 18:59

Originally Posted by MrMarko

It

had a really good laugh at the attitude of a few psi difference in a tyre wont cause me to slide off the road and i must be riding like a street rossi to have issues... a few psi makes a massive difference and frankly if you ride your bike like that go buy a cruiser and stop posing on the 1000cc superbike

Maybe they're better riders than you?

**MrMarko** · 3rd November 2016, 19:01

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Maybe they're better riders than you?

Maybe, maybe not. probably... probably not.

Who knows.

**kiwi cowboy** · 3rd November 2016, 19:05

Originally Posted by MrMarko

Not at all i suggest you learn to read.

and to keep them from overheating you need a lower pressure

This is what YOU wrote fella and I can read quite well I think.

**onearmedbandit** · 3rd November 2016, 19:06

Originally Posted by MrMarko

Maybe, maybe not. probably... probably not.

Who knows.

Well they way it comes across from you is that if someone ain't doing it your way then they are wrong and will crash and dies.

**MrMarko** · 3rd November 2016, 19:10

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit

Well they way it comes across from you is that if someone ain't doing it your way then they are wrong and will crash and dies.

Its my opinion...

I'm entitled to it.

Questions?

**MrMarko** · 3rd November 2016, 19:10

Originally Posted by kiwi cowboy

and to keep them from overheating you need a lower pressure

This is what YOU wrote fella and I can read quite well I think.

Quote my post.

**MrMarko** · 3rd November 2016, 19:13

Originally Posted by kiwi cowboy

and to keep them from overheating you need a lower pressure

This is what YOU wrote fella and I can read quite well I think.

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet as if i have said

"lower the pressure the better run 10 psi, 40psi is bad"

My point is they have an operating range of temperature and pressure...

The CORRECT pressure will come up to temp well and provide optimal grip...

Too low or too high from this is not ideal for grip or the heating and cooling of the tyre...

I thought i had been rather clear hence i suggested you learn to read.

**kiwi cowboy** · 3rd November 2016, 19:20

Originally Posted by MrMarko

You seem to have a bee in your bonnet as if i have said

"lower the pressure the better run 10 psi, 40psi is bad"

My point is they have an operating range of temperature and pressure...

The CORRECT pressure will come up to temp well and provide optimal grip...

Too low or too high from this is not ideal for grip or the heating and cooling of the tyre...

I thought i had been rather clear hence i suggested you learn to read.

No bee In my bonnet mate.

You explicitly said to lower the pressure to stop the tire overheating which is bull shit as the tire flexes more the lower the pressure so the over heating accures quicker as I understand it and to STOP the tire over heating you need to ADD pressure.

Post 77 by the way.

**MrMarko** · 3rd November 2016, 19:26

Originally Posted by MrMarko

Bridgestone Battlax S20 Tire Pressures
Racetrack
Front (cold): 32 psi
Front (hot—off the track): 34 psi
Rear (cold): 30 psi
Rear (hot—off the track): 34 psi
Street
Front (OEM recommendations)
Rear (OEM recommendations)

^^^yes i'm not blind i do see the review says oem pressures for the street.... it's called idiot proofing and liability of the manufacturer.

Yes the track and street are different... the track is alot stickier in surface and the pressure change of the tyre will be alot more than you'll get on the street and to keep them from overheating you need a lower pressure....

Even then the front and rear hot on the track is at 34 psi front and rear and thats a fully hot temperature.

You are going above that cold on the street with a rougher surface and of course pushing the tyre nowhere remotely near as hard as the track.

even cold you are another 2psi in the front and another 8 psi in the rear above the hot track temps and you expect decent grip out of it?

The other point to note here is the higher the pressure the longer you have to warm up the tyres, it becomes a struggle to get any heat into them and they cool quickly.

For a commuter/ sunny sunday rider this will do the job sure.

That isn't how i ride a motorcycle hence my opinion differs.

Seeing as you are incable of quoting and i have to go quote myself.... you go back and look at the post know the post number but can't even multi-quote me... but sure okay anyway...

So explain to me this....

Why drop the pressure for the race track? the tyre is being pushed harder than on the street... producing alot more heat...

So by your logic should you not run higher pressure at the track than on the street?

I'll happily admit what i was referring to was more the increase in tyre pressure from the additional heat...

I can see how its been misinterpreted as a result, however i'm happy to sit and have an adult and civil conversation if you come at me correctly.

Otherwise i'll bite peoples heads off just like they do to me when i do it.

**Madness** · 3rd November 2016, 19:33

Why is it that battery threads are so much more entertaining than tyre threads?

**Taxythingy** · 3rd November 2016, 19:37

Originally Posted by Blackbird

Just out of interest, I did a trackday on the GSX-S at Hampton Downs on a warm day last summer with PR4 sport touring tyres. The instructor recommended that I dropped my cold pressures to 30 psi front and rear. When I came in from one of the sessions, I checked the rear tyre pressure out of curiosity 2 or 3 minutes after stopping and it was 40psi. It would have been a fair bit higher immediately after coming in.

Nice. That's a warm tyre - about 100-120 degrees C when you tested it.

**kiwi cowboy** · 3rd November 2016, 20:06

Originally Posted by MrMarko

Seeing as you are incable of quoting and i have to go quote myself.... you go back and look at the post know the post number but can't even multi-quote me... but sure okay anyway...
OOOOh so sorry I am not completely computer literate. So explain to me this....

Why drop the pressure for the race track? the tyre is being pushed harder than on the street... producing alot more heat...
Depends on the tire I.E road tire only ya probably wont bugger all - race tires ya use warmers to get them to the optimum heat and race tires are generally harder to keep temp in so need lower pressure to stay hot but I will bow to your obviously superior knowledge.

So by your logic should you not run higher pressure at the track than on the street?

I'll happily admit what i was referring to was more the increase in tyre pressure from the additional heat...

When did I ever say that?.

I can see how its been misinterpreted as a result, however i'm happy to sit and have an adult and civil conversation if you come at me correctly.

Otherwise i'll bite peoples heads off just like they do to me when i do it.

Don't believe I have ever bit ya head off buddy lol I think ya need a wee sit down and snoze

**mossy1200** · 3rd November 2016, 20:10

Used to find 19 in rear and 22 in front good cold pressures for the track.

Running 34/34 on the road though.

**MrMarko** · 3rd November 2016, 20:19

Originally Posted by kiwi cowboy

Don't believe I have ever bit ya head off buddy lol I think ya need a wee sit down and snoze

Perhaps i'm sick of the double standard here that people can treat me like shit for any opinion and all gang up on me acting like children...

It's sweet i'm trackbike shopping, then i'll be sorting the men from the boys.

Speaking of which anybody want to buy a fully serviced rf900?