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    Education online.

    This idea doesn't appeal very much. Another money saving gimmick perhaps?.

    "Students to learn online from home instead of at school under major education reform"


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    The Correspondence School is already involved in this type of delivery, so there will be those who see this as the thin end of the wedge to move the Correspondence School towards being privatised.

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    I for one would have benifited greatly from 14 onwards.
    That is about where I spotted paying attention in class due to a mix of feeling like the teachers were pitching slow balls because of the lowest common denominator that classrooms promote and my growing conflict with authority / anticonformism.
    I love on line learning. If you understand it you can pace yourself accordingly and race ahead. If you don't you can repeat ad nauseum.
    Getting feedback is harder but I reckon. I would have spent less time reading war comics and more time learning if this had been either an option or a supplement.

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    it's an area that tertiary education is getting into in a big way - and i think it works well - for some people - it doesn't work well for others.

    but at primary school? as the teachers union says, at that stage it is about socialization of the kids.

    The move has dismayed the primary school teachers' union who say education is about learning to work and play with other children.
    Is the system in danger of producing loner nerds who can only relate to a computer ?
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    While in theory it's a good idea - and may actually be worthwhile for those who are doing correspondece school now - students are like puppies and need to be socialised. The more group immersion in lessons and other activities the better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    While in theory it's a good idea - and may actually be worthwhile for those who are doing correspondece school now - students are like puppies and need to be socialised. The more group immersion in lessons and other activities the better.
    They have Snapchat and Instagram for that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Is the system in danger of producing loner nerds who can only relate to a computer ?
    What's wrong with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    it's an area that tertiary education is getting into in a big way - and i think it works well - for some people - it doesn't work well for others.

    but at primary school? as the teachers union says, at that stage it is about socialization of the kids.

    Is the system in danger of producing loner nerds who can only relate to a computer ?
    Having taught at tertiary level and used online teaching, have to agree 100% with you. Had some truly brilliant work submitted by online students as well as some that was truly atrocious. For those students the online course was a waste of their time and money - in a face-to-face setting they would have had far more support.

    At primary - and that includes intermediate in this country - online courses may offer for some, probably a very small group, the opportunity to study and learn in a curriculum area that they would otherwise miss while still being within a social setting and interacting with others of their age and having the support of teachers.

    At secondary, a positive aspect of online learning is the expanded opportunities of what is available for kids to study and learn, while still maintaining that social aspect. Someone in a secondary is able to study a subject that the school can't offer while still being supported by teachers at the school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Having taught at tertiary level and used online teaching, have to agree 100% with you. Had some truly brilliant work submitted by online students as well as some that was truly atrocious.
    Now why doesn't that surprise me?

    But for those who get results that way why not? Especially if there's a reason the social interaction in a traditional environment is counterproductive.

    Also, isn't this mostly the parents choice?

    And for that matter, why not correspond 40% or 60%? It could work well in making best use of teaching resources...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Now why doesn't that surprise me?

    But for those who get results that way why not? Especially if there's a reason the social interaction in a traditional environment is counterproductive.

    Also, isn't this mostly the parents choice?

    And for that matter, why not correspond 40% or 60%? It could work well in making best use of teaching resources...
    I could not disagree with you.

    However, what is the driving force behind this direction? - educational excellence or financial advantage?

    Before anyone says "Knocking it because it's a National Government initiative" - No. It is too easy to tinker with education to the detriment of children at school and students at tertiary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    I could not disagree with you.

    However, what is the driving force behind this direction? - educational excellence or financial advantage?

    Before anyone says "Knocking it because it's a National Government initiative" - No. It is too easy to tinker with education to the detriment of children at school and students at tertiary.
    Sometimes it may just be because it makes sense?

    And if there's some nefarious shuffling in the background and it still makes sense then who gives a fuck? Except for those specialist nefarious shuffling train-spotters that genuinely do like to get all worked up about such shite.
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    At least it will stop all those boring stories about kids going to school hungry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Sometimes it may just be because it makes sense?

    And if there's some nefarious shuffling in the background and it still makes sense then who gives a fuck? Except for those specialist nefarious shuffling train-spotters that genuinely do like to get all worked up about such shite.
    Sometimes it does just make sense, but is it educational sense or financial sense?

    If the educational sense outweighs the financial sense then it does make sense, if the other way then it needs serious consideration as to why you'd implement such an education programme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Sometimes it does just make sense, but is it educational sense or financial sense?

    If the educational sense outweighs the financial sense then it does make sense, if the other way then it needs serious consideration as to why you'd implement such an education programme.
    Since when are the two unrelated?

    And again, why is it anyone other than the parents business?

    It's not something I would ever have used for my kids, we both worked since they were school aged. But for those parents for whom it might work why would you deny them the option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Since when are the two unrelated?

    And again, why is it anyone other than the parents business?

    It's not something I would ever have used for my kids, we both worked since they were school aged. But for those parents for whom it might work why would you deny them the option?

    I believe in NZ the two have never been unrelated, especially in our public education which began with the first Education Act of 1877. And probably prior to that, too, because education was privately provided.

    Why should education be the business of anyone other than parents? Because public education is tax funded then anyone paying taxes should be interested in what is happening and what is its value. Are we getting value for our educational dollar?

    If having online learning is educationally sound then providing it for those for whom it will benefit is worthwhile. If it is another fad or fashion then... I believe it has a place within our education system, along with other programmes and concepts.

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