First low side. Bike won't start.

**jafagsx250** · 2nd September 2016, 23:53

Had my first crash on a bike tonight. Came round a roundabout on my way home and to be honest was going too fast for cold tires and hit a crease where the road meets this concrete ring which runs around the roundabout. Bike slid out from under me and I got a bit of gravel rash for my trouble as i was wearing dress pants. Bike has mainly cosmetic damage which a twisted brake lever. But now it won't start. When I try to crash start it it sounds like it's firing but never really moves the bike. There was a pretty sizeable fuel spillage but nothing looks stuffed.

Going to call motorcycle doctors as I need it to get to uni on Monday but any suggestions on what might be wrong in general after a crash would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

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**xXGIBBOXx** · 3rd September 2016, 00:36

Is the kill switch in the right place . Check it over with a good torch to check for leaks . Let it stand for a bit and try starting it again and pump the throttle abit as the carbs may be empty . That just my 2 cents as to what it may be . A little bit of gas goes a long way when on the ground

**eldog** · 3rd September 2016, 03:28

Originally Posted by xXGIBBOXx

Is the kill switch in the right place . Check it over with a good torch to check for leaks . Let it stand for a bit and try starting it again and pump the throttle abit as the carbs may be empty . That just my 2 cents as to what it may be . A little bit of gas goes a long way when on the ground

Wot he said above

sort yourself first. Lesson learned.
check the bike over carefully.
dont mention what happened, most riders think it's skiting that you survived, you will be surprised to the reactions you may receive.

check tyre pressures and if tyres get warm.
maybe more practise on cornering will be helpful

summers coming so plenty of time for riding soon.

**caseye** · 3rd September 2016, 09:21

Originally Posted by jafagsx250

Had my first crash on a bike tonight. Came round a roundabout on my way home and to be honest was going too fast for cold tires and hit a crease where the road meets this concrete ring which runs around the roundabout. Bike slid out from under me and I got a bit of gravel rash for my trouble as i was wearing dress pants. Bike has mainly cosmetic damage which a twisted brake lever. But now it won't start. When I try to crash start it it sounds like it's firing but never really moves the bike. There was a pretty sizeable fuel spillage but nothing looks stuffed.

Going to call motorcycle doctors as I need it to get to uni on Monday but any suggestions on what might be wrong in general after a crash would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers.

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Wot they've said already, and try to think, Fuck that, I'm not doing that again, sounds like you expected that you would come off, so guess what ,? you did. cassina bitch and you could go out together if you're not careful, watch out for her telling you not to lose confidence and don't ride in groups.Mainly, look out for yourself first when on your bike, watch everything and everyone around you, and if you come back here and say you can't do that and ride safetly then I suggest you take it back to the shop and ask for a refund.
Seriously, get the bike checked over, make sure you never ride in anything but proper kit from now on and go and and enjoy your freedom on the bike without wondering, is it this corner, or perhaps the next one?
Glad you are OK. Bike will forgive you and go, learn and move on.

**jafagsx250** · 3rd September 2016, 10:14

Thanks for all the advice.

I am going to go to where it's been stored over night and have a look at it.

My post wasn't intended to be a wank fest of fuck yeah I lived or anything.

I took a too tight line around the roundabout so will definitely go slower and wider.

I expected at one point I would come off eventually but it was never all I thought about on the bike.

I was going to go for a father's day ride to thames so hoping I can get the bike started and riding otherwise it's back to pillion for me.

At the gear all the time will be the norm from now on.

You guys are legends.

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**WristTwister** · 3rd September 2016, 10:50

If you're bike is leaking all over the road, it might not be safe to start anyway.

Round-abouts are tricky, but it's mostly psychological - they're really no different to a street corner so approach them like you're going around a corner and you'll be OK. And roll-on the throttle progressively as you exit the turn, a noob mistake is to gun it out of a bend [too soon] and the back wheel slides.

Don't lose confidence, and don't ride in groups those bastards will pressure you into going too fast.

**PrincessBandit** · 3rd September 2016, 10:54

Gotta always be checking that road surface. The unexpected is what pretty much always gets ya - the mound of spewing tarseal coming round a bend (yes, I'm looking at you coast line along Kaikoura), the big flat steel plate that's been bolted ingeniously over some other monstrosity at a roundabout, etc. I think your "going too fast" is probably more significant that the "on cold tyres" - it definitely helps to ride at a speed that your brain can see and interpret what needs to be done in time.

**george formby** · 3rd September 2016, 11:03

Check your plugs and HT leads. I've had offs which have rattled the leads loose in the past. Well, I guess they were loose beforehand....
Roundabouts are generally off camber and often covered with rubber, diesel etc. Not good for shenanigans. Small ones seem to be the worst. No doubt the fuel came out of yer carbies over flow. My bikes do it. Almost like having a wee cry at the treatment they've received. Check your fuel line, too.. Just in case.

I bet yer dress strides are a mess.

File it away in yer lessons learned box. We all have one.

**neels** · 3rd September 2016, 11:36

Does it have a vacuum fuel tap with a 'prime' position?

**Akzle** · 3rd September 2016, 14:44

oil up in the head. depending how long it was on it's side. clean plugs. leave upright. turn over by hand. check oil.

**Laava** · 3rd September 2016, 17:40

Originally Posted by neels

Does it have a vacuum fuel tap with a 'prime' position?

Exactly what I was thinking. Check the tap carefully and if it has a "prime" position, turn it to prime for a minute or two then see if it will go

**FJRider** · 3rd September 2016, 18:25

Does your bike have a side stand kill switch, that stops it being started in gear with the stand down ..??

The wiring can get damaged in a crash.

**jafagsx250** · 4th September 2016, 10:48

It has an electronic vacuum I think as there's no fuel Cock to go from on prime and reserve.

It starts now. Front brake lever is a tad bent so I will probably replace it with an ebay special red one. But I checked it over before trying to start it and the allen key screw caps on the front forks were loose as. Barely finger tight. Hate to think how long I've been riding it like that assuming it was like that before Friday night.

I'll check the ht leads right now.

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**Banditbandit** · 5th September 2016, 11:50

Originally Posted by jafagsx250

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It starts now. Front brake lever is a tad bent so I will probably replace it with an ebay special red one. But I checked it over before trying to start it and the allen key screw caps on the front forks were loose as. Barely finger tight. Hate to think how long I've been riding it like that assuming it was like that before Friday night.

I'll check the ht leads right now.

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Errr ... I'd check the whole bike ..